Author Topic: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?  (Read 124559 times)

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Offline mercury

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #60 on: May 31, 2016, 11:04:16 PM »
Death could occur within hours as has been seen from many actual cases. Amaral's theory was entirely possible.

Very possible if you take out the "maybe she heard her father chatting outside at 9 ish" part, then again no one knows what may have happened at any time, if there was a fall, when and where, what was hit, what was landed on, perhaps a different kind of accident altogether than falling, when toddlers are left alone all sorts of dangers are around









Alfie

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Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #61 on: May 31, 2016, 11:35:23 PM »
Absence
I don't understand the comment. It's a well-known fact that the parents were away from their kids during the evening on the night of the disappearance and previous nights.  Why would not being there when she banged her head and died be potentially considered any more negligent that not being there when she was abducted by a paedophile?

Offline mercury

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #62 on: May 31, 2016, 11:38:42 PM »
I don't understand the comment. It's a well-known fact that the parents were away from their kids during the evening on the night of the disappearance and previous nights.  Why would not being there when she banged her head and died be potentially considered any more negligent that not being there when she was abducted by a paedophile?

What a wierd question

Absence in the face of  an accident case you forgot

Is there a law that says parents are not liable when leaving kids alone if a paedo took them? Honestly
« Last Edit: May 31, 2016, 11:40:47 PM by mercury »

Alfie

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Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #63 on: May 31, 2016, 11:45:03 PM »
What a wierd question

Absence in the face of  an accident case you forgot

Is there a law that says parents are not liable when leaving kids alone if a paedo took them? Honestly
No, that's exactly my point.  You seem to have misunderstood it.  Never mind.
« Last Edit: May 31, 2016, 11:47:21 PM by Alfie »

Offline mercury

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #64 on: May 31, 2016, 11:52:41 PM »
No, that's exactly my point.  You seem to have misunderstood it.  Never mind.
Do extrapolate for us thickos

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #65 on: June 01, 2016, 07:14:41 AM »
Might I recommend to you Chapter 21 of his book where Mr Amaral makes numerous assumptions of his own as to the reasons behind his dismissal ~ some of them quite extraordinary.

Well he can't libel himself.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #66 on: June 01, 2016, 07:32:49 AM »

It has been explained to your before, Madeleine could have easily sustained an injury prior to May the 3rd, or earlier that day.

It was me months ago who first mentioned the possibility of a subdural haematoma.

Do you not remember that ?

You were also keen to dismiss that then.

The basic treatise of accidental death remains on the table.

It has already been acknowledged Amaral did not get everything right.


For nine years posters have accepted death beteween 9.30 and 10 from  ahead injury was possible and i have shown it isn't.
The fact you now want to suggest an earlier head injury shows you accept this. An earlier head injury raises further questions...when...and what is the evidence for it
« Last Edit: June 01, 2016, 08:50:26 AM by Brietta »

stephen25000

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Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #67 on: June 01, 2016, 07:36:59 AM »
For nine years posters have accepted death beteween 9.30 and 10 from  ahead injury was possible and i have shown it isn't.
The fact you now want to suggest an earlier head injury shows you accept this. An earlier head injury raises further questions...when...and what is the evidence for it

You haven't shown anything.
« Last Edit: June 01, 2016, 09:37:43 AM by ShiningInLuz »

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #68 on: June 01, 2016, 07:42:55 AM »
I have shown that death due to a head injury between 9.30 and 10 is impossible...that's why you have come up with an alternative

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #69 on: June 01, 2016, 07:50:22 AM »
I have shown that death due to a head injury between 9.30 and 10 is impossible...that's why you have come up with an alternative

You haven't, you have just stated it. You had admitted yourself that a previous head injury could have caused death on that evening.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

stephen25000

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Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #70 on: June 01, 2016, 07:52:08 AM »
I have shown that death due to a head injury between 9.30 and 10 is impossible...that's why you have come up with an alternative

Why do you have this pre-occupation for between 9.30 and 10 pm ?

Offline carlymichelle

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #71 on: June 01, 2016, 07:53:20 AM »
Why do you have this pre-occupation for between 9.30 and 10 pm ?

and why such denial about how a    child   couldnt die of a  head injury they do everyday.... and sometimes instant  too

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #72 on: June 01, 2016, 07:54:54 AM »
and why such denial about how a    child   couldnt die of a  head injury they do everyday.... and sometimes instant  too

no instant deaths from head injuries except in car crashes

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #73 on: June 01, 2016, 07:56:03 AM »
Why do you have this pre-occupation for between 9.30 and 10 pm ?

because thats when amaral says it happened and thats what we are discussing

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #74 on: June 01, 2016, 08:02:57 AM »
because thats when amaral says it happened and thats what we are discussing

I suppose he could have been out by a couple of hours.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.