Author Topic: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?  (Read 124519 times)

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #90 on: June 01, 2016, 08:33:29 AM »
Wrong.

it is not wrong...it is totally correct

stephen25000

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Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #91 on: June 01, 2016, 08:33:55 AM »
a 17 yr old girl hanged herself

There are cases of unexplained deaths as well.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #92 on: June 01, 2016, 08:34:17 AM »
i dont understand why   davel thinks children cant die  from hitting their  heads    right  away

because they can't

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #93 on: June 01, 2016, 08:34:47 AM »
That and trapped and suffocated, broken neck etc...

a broken neck...and how did that happen....small babies get trapped and suffocated

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #94 on: June 01, 2016, 08:38:43 AM »
it is not wrong...it is totally correct

The book is written as a thesis, a possible solution based on the investigation.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #95 on: June 01, 2016, 08:55:54 AM »
The book is written as a thesis, a possible solution based on the investigation.

cite

Offline lordpookles

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #96 on: June 01, 2016, 08:59:23 AM »
Not a medical journal! Yahoo answers says this:

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080718085927AAlgEHJ

Can you comment Dave? You claim to be a doctor? Am I right?

Offline G-Unit

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #97 on: June 01, 2016, 09:18:42 AM »
cite

Thesis;

A statement or theory that is put forward as a premise to be maintained or proved
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/thesis

Gerry McCann used the word outside the court;

“Over last two days we have heard a lot about Amaral’s thesis that Madeleine is dead,” he told reporters. “but we have also heard that there is absolutely no evidence to support that thesis.
“A thesis without evidence is meaningless – and that is what we are here to discuss,” he said.

Of course the McCanns also had a thesis without evidence;

Portugal’s leading criminologist Francisco Moita Flores told the court that the abduction theory pushed by the McCanns should have been dismissed immediately as it was “totally implausible”.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/6983382/Gerry-McCann-rejects-claims-his-daughter-Madeleine-is-dead.html
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #98 on: June 01, 2016, 09:19:04 AM »
Not a medical journal! Yahoo answers says this:

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080718085927AAlgEHJ

Can you comment Dave? You claim to be a doctor? Am I right?

never claimed to be a doctor ...but.....

don't take any notice of these martial arts experts on yahoo forums......can the one inch punch cause instant death...no

a blow to the temple can cause damage to the meningeal artery...again bleeding causing death eventually but not instant

Offline jassi

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #99 on: June 01, 2016, 09:32:49 AM »
Are we into pedant land with 'instant'?

Choking due to something lodged in throat may not kill instantly, but can within a few seconds if left unattended.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline lordpookles

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #100 on: June 01, 2016, 09:47:58 AM »
never claimed to be a doctor ...but.....

don't take any notice of these martial arts experts on yahoo forums......can the one inch punch cause instant death...no

a blow to the temple can cause damage to the meningeal artery...again bleeding causing death eventually but not instant

I used to do martial arts for quite some time, so I know the 1 inch punch is more of an exhibition move. There are strikes however that are intended to kill. Like hitting someone under the chin with the palm and following through in an uppercut motion. The idea is to knock the opponent of their feet and they hit the back of their head on the floor when they fall over. I think you make a good point though regarding the length of time it usually takes for death to occur. However I assume the higher the height a child fell, the more instantaneous death may be likely to be...

Alfie

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Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #101 on: June 01, 2016, 09:51:35 AM »
Do extrapolate for us thickos
You have given as a reason for a cover up "absence".  We know they were absent.  There was no cover up of the fact that they left their kids alone.  Whatever the cause of death / disappearance, they as supposedly negligent parents would potentially face the same censure / punishment.  So, back to my question: why the need for a cover-up?

Offline jassi

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #102 on: June 01, 2016, 10:11:01 AM »
Purely hypothetically - a cause of death might have been so shocking and damaging to reputation that 'neglect' was the lesser of two evils.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #103 on: June 01, 2016, 10:16:41 AM »
Thesis;

A statement or theory that is put forward as a premise to be maintained or proved
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/thesis

Gerry McCann used the word outside the court;

“Over last two days we have heard a lot about Amaral’s thesis that Madeleine is dead,” he told reporters. “but we have also heard that there is absolutely no evidence to support that thesis.
“A thesis without evidence is meaningless – and that is what we are here to discuss,” he said.

Of course the McCanns also had a thesis without evidence;

Portugal’s leading criminologist Francisco Moita Flores told the court that the abduction theory pushed by the McCanns should have been dismissed immediately as it was “totally implausible”.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/6983382/Gerry-McCann-rejects-claims-his-daughter-Madeleine-is-dead.html

we need a cite from amaral
gerry is going to call it merely  a thesis...hes hardly going to say its a fact

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #104 on: June 01, 2016, 10:25:13 AM »
I used to do martial arts for quite some time, so I know the 1 inch punch is more of an exhibition move. There are strikes however that are intended to kill. Like hitting someone under the chin with the palm and following through in an uppercut motion. The idea is to knock the opponent of their feet and they hit the back of their head on the floor when they fall over. I think you make a good point though regarding the length of time it usually takes for death to occur. However I assume the higher the height a child fell, the more instantaneous death may be likely to be...

I did wado ryu karate
Have a friend who got to 2nd Dan
Trained in Japan at some point
Still just nuts  everyone as first option