Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?

[ferryman]

So let's see  &%+((£  they did intend to put her in danger yet anyone with the slightest titter of intelligence would know that you don't leave three toddlers alone in strange surroundings for hours on end while you go off socialising nearby.  And especially so when one of the children had already complained about being left on her own.

Were they dense or just fcuking tossers?

So are accusing the Portuguese prosecutors of lying?

Is that libel?

[Angelo222]

So are accusing the Portuguese prosecutors of lying?

Is that libel?

For heavens sake do read my post again.  I never mentioned prosecutors.

We all know that you have to have intent before being prosecuted for neglect.  My point was that the McCanns got a warning about their conduct when the missing child chose to raise the matter but they chose to ignore her.  That in my book raises the whole matter to an entirely different level of culpability.


Not only did they leave the children on their own in an open apartment but they did so in the full knowledge that the children were worried about them doing so!

[ferryman]

For heavens sake do read my post again.  I never mentioned prosecutors.

The Portuguese prosecutors said there was no neglect and no intent to harm.

You say different?

[Angelo222]

The Portuguese prosecutors said there was no neglect and no intent to harm.

You say different?

You really are insufferable.  They did say there was neglect but insufficient to bring a prosecution against them.

Let's face it, the McCanns did neglect their children.  Not many people can say they went on holiday with three children but came home with two because of their own rank stupidity and selfishness!!

[carlymichelle]

You really are insufferable.

  agree  he makes me   want to bash my head on my  desk

[Angelo222]

agree  he makes me   want to bash my head on my  desk

       I'm off for a barby...

[ferryman]

You really are insufferable.  They did say there was neglect but insufficient to bring a prosecution against them.

Let's face it, the McCanns did neglect their children.  Not many people can say they went on holiday with three children but came home with two because of their own rank stupidity and selfishness!!

Re-read what both I and John Pierre have quoted from the archiving dispatch.

Neglect was a (possible) charge ruled out by the Prosecutors.

[John]

Re-read what both I and John Pierre have quoted from the archiving dispatch.

Neglect was a (possible) charge ruled out by the Prosecutors.

I believe the crimes being referenced were exposure or abandonment.

[ferryman]

I believe the crimes being referenced were exposure or abandonment.

If there was no evidence of either of those against the McCanns (there wasn't!) what (hypothetically) might the McCanns have been guilty of.

[slartibartfast]

If there was no evidence of either of those against the McCanns (there wasn't!) what (hypothetically) might the McCanns have been guilty of.

Did they look after their children well on that holiday?

[Alice Purjorick]

It seems the law considers the outcome of any crime (neglect) to be the most relevant factor in determining the severity of any crime committed.
I liken it to the drink-driving laws, whereby killing a person whilst driving under the influence attracts a prison sentence but simply driving whist drunk (with risk of causing death) only attracts a fine & ban. Same risk, different outcome & punishment.

Not to mention completely different offences.
1 Driving whilst under the influence of alcohol.
2 Causing death by careless driving while under the influence of alcohol.
Driving under the influence can attract a custodial sentence but in months rather than years.

http://www.cps.gov.uk/news/fact_sheets/dangerous_driving/

[misty]

Not to mention completely different offences.
1 Driving whilst under the influence of alcohol.
2 Causing death by careless driving while under the influence of alcohol.
Driving under the influence can attract a custodial sentence but in months rather than years.

http://www.cps.gov.uk/news/fact_sheets/dangerous_driving/

Yes, it's a strange legal system we have.
I watched Luke McCormick living a footballer's dream in playing at Wembley on Monday & wondered how many of the fans cheering his saves even remembered the 2 little children his actions wiped out?

[ferryman]

Did they look after their children well on that holiday?

Not (quite!) well enough to foil an abduction.

The mother of James Bulger didn't look after him (quite) well enough to prevent something unspeakably horrific (at the hands of two third-parties).

Neither (the McCanns nor the mother of James Bulger) were criminally guilty.

[Alice Purjorick]

Yes, it's a strange legal system we have.
I watched Luke McCormick living a footballer's dream in playing at Wembley on Monday & wondered how many of the fans cheering his saves even remembered the 2 little children his actions wiped out?

Unfortunately it's the world we live in. There are many who are mown down but not by "celebrities" so their passing goes unremarked except by those touched. The drivers are gas fitters, schoolteachers, doctors, solicitors, musicians, alcoholics etc. I wonder if their patients /clients/customers know or care ?

[John]

If there was no evidence of either of those against the McCanns (there wasn't!) what (hypothetically) might the McCanns have been guilty of.

Depends what you mean by guilty, legally or morally?