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Offline G-Unit

Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #60 on: June 30, 2016, 11:15:01 PM »
are you aware that china invaded Tibet in the 50's and killed a million people....are still there now....arrested and held...and still holding the youngest political prisoner in the world....aged 5 when arrested.....and we can't say a word because it would upset the chinese...we cannot heal the whole world

I agree it's a big subject. What is usually true is that the power resides with the people because of their numbers. It's the leaders who exercise it though. If they exercise it wrongly the people need to understand that and work to change those leaders in whatever way they can.
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Offline mercury

Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #61 on: July 01, 2016, 12:19:47 AM »
Thanks for that.
It appears the govt cant be bothered or isnt able to stop this.

I dont believe half a million or more have come into the uk on trucks, so what is uk border control doing or rather not doing and why

Perhaps a stricter control and clearer laws might help



Offline John

Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #62 on: July 01, 2016, 11:33:58 AM »
Final result on our 24-hour snap poll on twitter.

https://twitter.com/Justice_forum/status/748439187423109120
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline John

Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #63 on: July 01, 2016, 01:23:41 PM »
Thanks for that.
It appears the govt cant be bothered or isnt able to stop this.

I dont believe half a million or more have come into the uk on trucks, so what is uk border control doing or rather not doing and why

Perhaps a stricter control and clearer laws might help

The border checks are basic, they only stop and search the very odd truck.  There are groups based in London who are solely concerned with bringing illegals into the capital.  Occasionally they are detected and caught but it is usually down to sharp eyed mermbers of the public.  Some estimates put the number of illegals and overstayers in the UK at well over million. 
« Last Edit: July 01, 2016, 07:11:35 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Myster

Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #64 on: July 01, 2016, 01:35:44 PM »
The border checks are basic, they only stop and search the very odd truck.  There are groups based in London who are solely concerned with bringing illegals into the capital.  Occasionally they are detected and caught but it is usually down to sharp eyed mermbers of the public.  Some estimates put the number of illegals and overstayers in the UK at well over million.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3669532/Astonished-motorist-finds-12-asylum-seekers-hidden-lorry-hearing-banging-inside-vehicle-motorway-service-station.html
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline John

« Last Edit: July 03, 2016, 05:35:22 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline mercury

Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #66 on: July 01, 2016, 11:43:17 PM »
The border checks are basic, they only stop and search the very odd truck.  There are groups based in London who are solely concerned with bringing illegals into the capital.  Occasionally they are detected and caught but it is usually down to sharp eyed mermbers of the public.  Some estimates put the number of illegals and overstayers in the UK at well over million.

If the authorities have behaved lazily then they have no right to complain

stephen25000

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Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #67 on: July 03, 2016, 10:13:43 AM »
Not quite in line with the justice forum poll.

http://www.britishfuture.org/articles/15131/

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #68 on: July 03, 2016, 10:15:53 AM »
Most are found by accident, the current border controls at Hull, Dover and Folkestone are wholly inadequate.

Not to mention the Essex and East Anglian coast lines being a leaky sieve!

or as leaky as a sieve even.
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Offline John

Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #69 on: July 03, 2016, 05:37:54 PM »
Not quite in line with the justice forum poll.

http://www.britishfuture.org/articles/15131/

EU migrants are not illegals Stephen.  I thought you had realised that by now?

Result of our 24-hour poll in which 1,328 people voted shows overwhelmingly by 80% that there should be no amnesty for illegals.

https://twitter.com/Justice_forum/status/748439187423109120
« Last Edit: July 07, 2016, 12:16:19 AM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

stephen25000

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Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #70 on: July 03, 2016, 05:43:23 PM »
EU migrants are not illegals Stephen.  I thought you had realised that by now?

I thought you would not get the point.


There are also illegal migrants from the EU.


It seems you have not considered in any depth the problems of logistics, expense and time in removing those you consider illegal immigrants.

Offline John

Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #71 on: July 03, 2016, 05:51:42 PM »
I thought you would not get the point.


There are also illegal migrants from the EU.


It seems you have not considered in any depth the problems of logistics, expense and time in removing those you consider illegal immigrants.

An EU migrant and a migrant from the EU are two completely different things.  The former being an EU citizen, the later not.

You are beginning to sound like davel now.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

stephen25000

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Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #72 on: July 03, 2016, 06:07:34 PM »
An EU migrant and a migrant from the EU are two completely different things.  The former being an EU citizen, the later not.

You are beginning to sound like davel now.

Hardly.

Can you provide the details of how all illegal immigrants, which some figures indicate could be in excess of 1,000,000, would be repatriated.

Now that would be interesting to see.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #73 on: July 04, 2016, 05:26:23 PM »
Asylum seekers, fleeing from a brutal regime in Syria.

But no doubt they should have been sent back from whence they came.

Where is that vomit emoticon.   

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Offline John

Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #74 on: July 07, 2016, 12:17:55 AM »
Hardly.

Can you provide the details of how all illegal immigrants, which some figures indicate could be in excess of 1,000,000, would be repatriated.

Now that would be interesting to see.

The same way they are dealt with presently.
« Last Edit: July 07, 2016, 12:33:56 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.