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Offline Carana

Re: Was Calpol suspension licensed in Portugal in 2007?
« Reply #90 on: July 02, 2016, 03:21:05 PM »
The problem with myths (often due to hastily written sensationalist headlines or straps) is that they have a long shelf-life.

Who honestly notices a correction on page 62, published weeks later, when you originally spotted a headline in a tabloid while waiting at a petrol station?

Offline John

Re: Was Calpol suspension licensed in Portugal in 2007?
« Reply #91 on: July 02, 2016, 08:55:32 PM »
To take calpol on holiday with a child to Portugal is quite legal, unless there is a specific Portuguese law outlawing, even possession, of the drug as if illegal (in Portugal) which I doubt.

That Portugal may not, itself, sell the drug (under that name) is no guide whatever.

Portugal may well sell an identical product (Calpol) under a different name.

Johnson and Johnson do not market/sell any oral medicine in Portugal.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Carana

Re: Was Calpol suspension licensed in Portugal in 2007?
« Reply #92 on: July 02, 2016, 08:58:53 PM »
Johnson and Johnson do not market/sell any oral medicine in Portugal.


John, the PT licensee was Janssen-Cilag Farmacêutica, based in Lisbon.

Offline John

Re: Was Calpol suspension licensed in Portugal in 2007?
« Reply #93 on: July 02, 2016, 09:01:41 PM »
Calpol is a brand of children's medicine sold in the UK, Ireland, India, Cyprus, Hong Kong, Malta and the Philippines. The main product is a paracetamol suspension. It is usually a coloured syrup with a sweet taste, and is used to treat fever and pain. The Calpol brand was owned by Mark Profad, the president of the company and Paul Knott, his vice president.

The brand is now owned by Johnson & Johnson.  Calpol also comes in a form containing ibuprofen, marketed under the name Calprofen. Calpol is a common cause of accidental child poisoning because of its pleasant taste. Calpol Night, a product containing paracetamol and an anti-histamine, was listed for use from 2+ months. However, this has recently changed and it is now only considered suitable for children over the age of 6 years.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Carana

Re: Was Calpol suspension licensed in Portugal in 2007?
« Reply #94 on: July 02, 2016, 09:09:59 PM »
Calpol is a brand of children's medicine sold in the UK, Ireland, India, Cyprus, Hong Kong, Malta and the Philippines. The main product is a paracetamol suspension. It is usually a coloured syrup with a sweet taste, and is used to treat fever and pain. The Calpol brand was owned by Mark Profad, the president of the company and Paul Knott, his vice president.

The brand is now owned by Johnson & Johnson.  Calpol also comes in a form containing ibuprofen, marketed under the name Calprofen. Calpol is a common cause of accidental child poisoning because of its pleasant taste. Calpol Night, a product containing paracetamol and an anti-histamine, was listed for use from 2+ months. However, this has recently changed and it is now only considered suitable for children over the age of 6 years.



John....

Any chance of rewinding to this morning?

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7371.msg343316#msg343316

Offline John

Re: Was Calpol suspension licensed in Portugal in 2007?
« Reply #95 on: July 02, 2016, 09:32:09 PM »


John....

Any chance of rewinding to this morning?

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7371.msg343316#msg343316

Sorry Carana, someone asked a question about the current situation with Calpol.  Johnson and Johnson certainly don't appear to be marketing it any more.

As for 2007, thank you for posting the product advice leaflet re licencing in Portugal from 3 May 2007.
« Last Edit: July 03, 2016, 02:07:33 AM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Was Calpol suspension licensed in Portugal in 2007?
« Reply #96 on: July 02, 2016, 09:55:28 PM »
Sorry Carana, someone asked a question about the current situation with Calpol.  Johnson and Johnson certainly don't appear to be marketing it any more.

As for 2007, thank you for posting the product advice leaflet re licencing in Portugal from 5 March 2007.

It was claimed by a mod on here that  Calpol was illegal in portugal.....several posters said she was wrong....she is wrong...that's it

Offline mercury

Re: Was Calpol suspension licensed in Portugal in 2007?
« Reply #97 on: July 02, 2016, 09:56:20 PM »


John....

Any chance of rewinding to this morning?

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7371.msg343316#msg343316


That was revoked in March 2008 according to

https://myhealthbox.eu/pt/medicamento/calpol/1403650

http://itools.com/tool/google-translate-web-page-translator

Quote from: Carana

In PT, dates expressed in numbers generally follow the US system, i.e. 5 March.


As to why the police said that.... no idea. They may have believed the same myths as many others did (or do).

Doesn't appear to be the case here.
For instance
http://www.infarmed.pt/infomed/download_ficheiro.php?med_id=182&tipo_doc=fi

Quote from: Carana
John, the PT licensee was Janssen-Cilag Farmacêutica, based in Lisbon.

J-C's parent company is J & J

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Was Calpol suspension licensed in Portugal in 2007?
« Reply #98 on: July 02, 2016, 11:24:19 PM »
Dates in Portugal normally follow dd mm yyyy style, or a variant thereof.

03 05 2007 means 3 May 2007.
What's up, old man?

Offline John

Re: Was Calpol suspension licensed in Portugal in 2007?
« Reply #99 on: July 03, 2016, 03:03:11 AM »
Dates in Portugal normally follow dd mm yyyy style, or a variant thereof.

03 05 2007 means 3 May 2007.

Thank's SiL, I have corrected my earlier post.

There still appears to be several misunderstandings in this thread.  The thread title asks the question as to whether Calpol was licensed for sale in Portugal in 2007.  Carana has provided proof that it was authorised for distribution and sale from 3rd May 2007 which by some strange coincidence was the exact day that Madeleine McCann disappeared.  Prior to the 3rd May therefore, Calpol was not licenced and consequently could not be sold legally in Portugal.

As the thread progressed the question as to whether Calpol is still sold in Portugal was raised.  The Calpol brand is owned and distributed by Johnson and Johnson.  On their Portuguese website they do not promote any Calpol products. It has yet to be established whether Calpol products are still licenced for sale in Portugal.

Any clarification of this greatfully appreciated.

« Last Edit: July 03, 2016, 01:53:10 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Carana

Re: Was Calpol suspension licensed in Portugal in 2007?
« Reply #100 on: July 03, 2016, 05:49:16 AM »

That was revoked in March 2008 according to

https://myhealthbox.eu/pt/medicamento/calpol/1403650

http://itools.com/tool/google-translate-web-page-translator
Doesn't appear to be the case here.
For instance
http://www.infarmed.pt/infomed/download_ficheiro.php?med_id=182&tipo_doc=fi

J-C's parent company is J & J

Thanks, Mercury. I was looking for confirmation of whether the date was 5 March or 3 May and you beat me to it. It does indeed appear to be 3 May.

Offline Carana

Re: Was Calpol suspension licensed in Portugal in 2007?
« Reply #101 on: July 03, 2016, 06:28:24 AM »
I wonder if the [ censored word ]s are developing their latest theories that there must be some deep significance in the coincidence of the authorisation date and Madeleine's disappearance?  &%+((£

Seriously, I'm a bit confused.

Whether it's still authorised for sale or not in Portugal (and it seems that it isn't according to Merc's link), I don't see what's so interesting about it.

Whether or not the police did actually say that Calpol was illegal (in the story of the other family), it's not as if paracetamol is a Class A drug, is it?

stephen25000

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Re: Was Calpol suspension licensed in Portugal in 2007?
« Reply #102 on: July 03, 2016, 08:05:28 AM »
I wonder if the [ censored word ]s are developing their latest theories that there must be some deep significance in the coincidence of the authorisation date and Madeleine's disappearance?  &%+((£

Seriously, I'm a bit confused.

Whether it's still authorised for sale or not in Portugal (and it seems that it isn't according to Merc's link), I don't see what's so interesting about it.

Whether or not the police did actually say that Calpol was illegal (in the story of the other family), it's not as if paracetamol is a Class A drug, is it?

Just a random coincidence, these things happen.

I thought I was right about the date yesterday, as I haven't seen  the American system of giving the month first before the date in Europe.

So when did Calpol go on sale then in Portugal ?

I would suspect the police reaction in Portugal in 2014 was simply because of this case.

Offline Carana

Re: Was Calpol suspension licensed in Portugal in 2007?
« Reply #103 on: July 03, 2016, 08:49:36 AM »
Just a random coincidence, these things happen.

I thought I was right about the date yesterday, as I haven't seen  the American system of giving the month first before the date in Europe.

So when did Calpol go on sale then in Portugal ?

I would suspect the police reaction in Portugal in 2014 was simply because of this case.


My comment re [ censored word ]s wasn't addressed to you.

Re the date: Yes, you were correct on that. And I did wonder at first, as well.
I did say "generally" (which has been my experience on trying to verify such things, particularly in the PJ files), but I should have been clearer that both formats exist, for some unfathomable reason.

Re when Calpol was actually available for purchase: no idea. I haven't found anything reliable as to whether it ever was or not. Nor have I been able to find anything as to why the license appears to have been "revoked" in PT.

Setting that aside, I'm still bewildered as to the potential significance of a brand of a common pain relief product that many people would pack along with toothpaste.

Re the alleged police reaction: it's hearsay and - so far -  impossible to verify.



stephen25000

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Re: Was Calpol suspension licensed in Portugal in 2007?
« Reply #104 on: July 03, 2016, 08:57:32 AM »

My comment re [ censored word ]s wasn't addressed to you.

Re the date: Yes, you were correct on that. And I did wonder at first, as well.
I did say "generally" (which has been my experience on trying to verify such things, particularly in the PJ files), but I should have been clearer that both formats exist, for some unfathomable reason.

Re when Calpol was actually available for purchase: no idea. I haven't found anything reliable as to whether it ever was or not. Nor have I been able to find anything as to why the license appears to have been "revoked" in PT.

Setting that aside, I'm still bewildered as to the potential significance of a brand of a common pain relief product that many people would pack along with toothpaste.

Re the alleged police reaction: it's hearsay and - so far -  impossible to verify.

I didn't think it was Carana.

If it was banned , the link I gave yesterday could well explain why. Some of the ingredients in Calpol have been banned in other countries.

http://www.diaryofafirstchild.com/2010/04/20/calpol-what-every-parent-should-know/