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Offline Mr Gray

Re: A fresh look at Eddie the cadaver dog and those alerts.
« Reply #75 on: July 15, 2016, 07:41:48 PM »
I despair.  I really do.  This is turning into, "Who can come up with the daftest idea."

At least it puts the other ideas into the context they belong

Offline pathfinder73

Re: A fresh look at Eddie the cadaver dog and those alerts.
« Reply #76 on: July 15, 2016, 07:43:50 PM »
An incomplete DNA result is the first words so that doesn't rule out Madeleine McCann.
« Last Edit: July 15, 2016, 08:47:21 PM by John »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: A fresh look at Eddie the cadaver dog and those alerts.
« Reply #77 on: July 15, 2016, 07:47:54 PM »
An incomplete DNA result is the first words so that doesn't rule out Madeleine McCann.

It doesn't rule out several billion people if you understand what it says
Most sceptics dont

ferryman

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Re: A fresh look at Eddie the cadaver dog and those alerts.
« Reply #78 on: July 15, 2016, 08:24:53 PM »
There was no blood recovered from the boot and no match to maddies profile from the DNA found there

The word blood is not used once in John Lowe's report; remarkable, when you consider that only stuff reacted to by Keela (not trained to react to anything else) was sent to the laboratory.

ferryman

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Re: A fresh look at Eddie the cadaver dog and those alerts.
« Reply #79 on: July 15, 2016, 08:29:48 PM »
From: Lowe, Mr J R [mailto:John.Lowe@fss.pnn.police.uk
Sent: 03 September 2007 15:01
To: stuart.prior@leicestershire.pnn.police.uk
Subject: Op Task - In Confidence


Stuart

Firstly, here are the last three results you are expecting

An incomplete DNA result was obtained from cellular material on the swab 3a. The swab contained very little information and showed low level indications of DNA from more than one person. However, all of the confirmed DNA components within this result match the corresponding components in the DNA profile of Madeline McCann. LCN DNA profiling is highly sensitive it is not possible to attribute this DNA profile to a particular body fluid.

There is no evidence to support the view that Madeline MCCann contributed DNA to the swab 3B.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MADELEINES_DNA.htm


Scarcely surprising, considering that in the mix is also likely to have been DNA from 4 of Madeleine's direct blood-relatives: her parents and her twin-siblings (all with very similar profiles, and no doubt a very high number of alike markers to Madeleine).

Anyhow, Eddie ignored the boot and reacted to spots of Gerry's blood on the ignition key.
« Last Edit: July 15, 2016, 08:46:00 PM by John »

Offline Mr Gray

Re: A fresh look at Eddie the cadaver dog and those alerts.
« Reply #80 on: July 15, 2016, 08:33:26 PM »
Scarcely surprising, considering that in the mix is also likely to have been DNA from 4 of Madeleine's direct blood-relatives: her parents and her twin-siblings (all with very similar profiles, and no doubt a very high number of alike markers to Madeleine).

Anyhow, Eddie ignored the boot and reacted to spots of Gerry's blood on the ignition key.

I'm fairly sure the report was written in answer to the question
Is this Maddies DNA..... and that is the only reason the report mentions Maddie
« Last Edit: July 15, 2016, 08:39:42 PM by davel »

Offline John

Re: A fresh look at Eddie the cadaver dog and those alerts.
« Reply #81 on: July 15, 2016, 08:50:56 PM »
Makes one wonder how DNA material from the family got into the carpet area of the luggage compartment of the Scenic hire car in the first place?
« Last Edit: July 20, 2016, 11:51:56 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: A fresh look at Eddie the cadaver dog and those alerts.
« Reply #82 on: July 15, 2016, 08:53:49 PM »
Makes one wonder how DNA material from the family got into the carpet area of the luggage compartment of the Scenic hire car in the first place?

 could have just been a discarded used tissue that fell out of a rubbish bag
« Last Edit: July 20, 2016, 11:52:21 PM by John »

Offline misty

Re: A fresh look at Eddie the cadaver dog and those alerts.
« Reply #83 on: July 15, 2016, 10:04:37 PM »
Makes one wonder how DNA material from the family got into the carpet area of the luggage compartment of the Scenic hire car in the first place?

One can only speculate why they had to partially dismantle the vehicle to find the material in an area repeatedly tapped at by the dog handler.

ferryman

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Re: A fresh look at Eddie the cadaver dog and those alerts.
« Reply #84 on: July 15, 2016, 10:08:48 PM »
One can only speculate why they had to partially dismantle the vehicle to find the material in an area repeatedly tapped at by the dog handler.

Quite right, though ....
« Last Edit: July 20, 2016, 11:53:07 PM by John »

Offline misty

Re: A fresh look at Eddie the cadaver dog and those alerts.
« Reply #85 on: July 15, 2016, 10:14:21 PM »
Quite right, though ....

Give it time....but the part about dismantling is hardly libellous.
« Last Edit: July 20, 2016, 11:53:41 PM by John »

Offline mercury

Re: A fresh look at Eddie the cadaver dog and those alerts.
« Reply #86 on: July 15, 2016, 11:49:40 PM »
The word blood is not used once in John Lowe's report; remarkable, when you consider that only stuff reacted to by Keela (not trained to react to anything else) was sent to the laboratory.

No other stuff could havebeen sent. Could it?
And yes it is remarkable the word  blood does not appear in the Lowe report but you keep posting Gerrys blood was found, even when no dna profile matchng Gerrys was found either

 &%+((£
« Last Edit: July 16, 2016, 12:15:49 AM by mercury »

Offline sadie

Re: A fresh look at Eddie the cadaver dog and those alerts.
« Reply #87 on: July 16, 2016, 12:03:04 AM »
Ferryman
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Or the fact that clothing he, apparently, could find no trace of a scent of in the villa, he (apparently) could (exactly the same items!) in the gym?

Now stop a moment and think about that.  Ponder on it.

Eddie could find no trace of scent on the clothing earlier in the villa, but COULD find scent later when presented with the same clothing in the gym

Hmm £5%4%



So what had happened to the clothing in the meantime ?   No scent earlier, but scent later?
 &%+((£

Answers on a postage stamp please.

Offline mercury

Re: A fresh look at Eddie the cadaver dog and those alerts.
« Reply #88 on: July 16, 2016, 12:28:11 AM »
Maybe stop and thnk why edidie DID bark at the clothes

Offline sadie

Re: A fresh look at Eddie the cadaver dog and those alerts.
« Reply #89 on: July 16, 2016, 12:38:33 AM »
Maybe stop and thnk why edidie DID bark at the clothes
Can you tell me why he didn't bark earlier in the villa, but he barked later in the gym ?

Where did the scent suddenly appear from?