Has Gonçalo Amaral become the fall guy in the Madeleine McCann case?

[slartibartfast]

A rogue cop is a policeman who abuses his position of trust and behaves like a criminal himself.

Amaral has a criminal record for doing just that.

Are you saying he hasn't?   Surely not mercury?

Between Rogue Cop and Impugn we have two supporters, one relying on a fairly common usage and the other on a dictionary definition.

Just a question, was Amaral found guilty of knowing about any torture?

[Eleanor]

Between Rogue Cop and Impugn we have two supporters, one relying on a fairly common usage and the other on a dictionary definition.

Just a question, was Amaral found guilty of knowing about any torture?

He wasn't a very good cop if he didn't know what was going on in his police station for nigh on two days.

[Lace]

Can anyone tell me why Amaral had to make out that Gerry McCann knew that the person who alleged to know where Madeleine was and was going to ring with information,  was a fake?    Amaral accused Gerry of knowing this man was a fake in his book.

Can anyone tell me why Amaral made out there was a sinister force at work when his dog died?   More or less pointing the finger at the McCann's?    He did the same when his neighbours house was burgled.

Can anyone tell me why Amaral tried to make out that Gerry was this cold calculated man in his book with the 'he cut up bodies before breakfast' quote.

Why did Amaral mention 'Calpol Night' when it hadn't even arrived on the shelves?   

Sorry but reading Amaral's book just confirmed to me that he is a sly person,   quite willing to blacken the names of Gerry and Kate to turn the public against them and strengthen his theory of death in 5a and removal of Madeleine's body.

[Benice]

He wasn't a very good cop if he didn't know what was going on in his police station for nigh on two days.

Not only in his police station Eleanor  - but with his officers  - who were working on his case at his direction. 

[ShiningInLuz]

In full acceptance of the statement made which removed all suspicion of wrongdoing by the McCanns and Murat I will not go into my thoughts from the time because they were wrong.

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Portugal's attorney-general, Fernando Jose Pinto Monteiro, said the police had found no evidence linking the McCanns, or fellow suspect Robert Murat, to Madeleine's suspected abduction, and lifted all conditions imposed on them.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/2440157/Madeleine-McCann-Kate-and-Gerry-McCann-officially-cleared-of-arguido-status.html

The Policia Judiciaria suspicions at the time leading to Murat's arguido status were wrong but in my belief worthy of investigation.
I do read a great deal more into the PJ record than the mere suspicion of one newspaper reporter.  It surprises me that you don't. 

The majority of people can see the wrong that would have been perpetrated if instead of latching onto Madeleine's parents Amaral had written a book of accusation directed at Murat.

Therefore far from being a 'fall guy' in my opinion Amaral has cynically manipulated a family tragedy into one of the most disgracefully self serving episodes in history.

So what else was there that justified making Murat an arguido?  A thumbnail sketch will suffice.

[Eleanor]

Not only in his police station Eleanor  - but with his officers  - who were working on his case at his direction.

Especially if she was hollering, as would anyone have been under the circumstances.

[Brietta]

So what else was there that justified making Murat an arguido?  A thumbnail sketch will suffice.

I am sure you are as competent as I when it comes to English interpretation. 

It seems that our opinions of the Policia Judiciaria investigation may diverge somewhat ... and I will not discuss my opinion of the reading as it would certainly risk libelling an innocent man

• the suspicions of Murat were thoroughly investigated and nothing connecting him to Madeleine was found
• to make anything other than a generalisation and enter into the minutiae of the PJ file on Murat calls that investigation and its outcome into question

[Eleanor]

I am sure you are as competent as I when it comes to English interpretation. 

It seems that our opinions of the Policia Judiciaria investigation may diverge somewhat ... and I will not discuss my opinion of the reading as it would certainly risk libelling an innocent man

• the suspicions of Murat were thoroughly investigated and nothing connecting him to Madeleine was found
• to make anything other than a generalisation and enter into the minutiae of the PJ file on Murat calls that investigation and its outcome into question

I think that Murat was picked on because The PJ in general knew that The McCanns could not have disposed of a body without local help.

[xtina]

Can anyone tell me why Amaral had to make out that Gerry McCann knew that the person who alleged to know where Madeleine was and was going to ring with information,  was a fake?    Amaral accused Gerry of knowing this man was a fake in his book.

Can anyone tell me why Amaral made out there was a sinister force at work when his dog died?   More or less pointing the finger at the McCann's?    He did the same when his neighbours house was burgled.

Can anyone tell me why Amaral tried to make out that Gerry was this cold calculated man in his book with the 'he cut up bodies before breakfast' quote.

Why did Amaral mention 'Calpol Night' when it hadn't even arrived on the shelves?   

Sorry but reading Amaral's book just confirmed to me that he is a sly person,   quite willing to blacken the names of Gerry and Kate to turn the public against them and strengthen his theory of death in 5a and removal of Madeleine's body.

well can anyone tell ......why the mccs hired metedo 3..with cash from fund to dish the dirt on G A probably before he even wrote the book

http://themaddiecasefiles.com/topic24430.html

[Angelo222]

well can anyone tell ......why the mccs hired metedo 3..with cash from fund to dish the dirt on G A probably before he even wrote the book

http://themaddiecasefiles.com/topic24430.html

Very simply, destroy the lead investigator and you destroy the credibility of the investigation.  Metedo 3 had no business with John Grade or Marcos Correia other than Amaral and the McCanns, helping Cipriano was merely a ruse to get ammunition on Amaral. The police should be investigating that conspiracy and not wasting their time on other things imo.

[slartibartfast]

He wasn't a very good cop if he didn't know what was going on in his police station for nigh on two days.

Are you suggesting he did know?

[Eleanor]

Are you suggesting he did know?

No.  I'm suggesting he was a very poor copper if he didn't.

[Angelo222]

He wasn't a very good cop if he didn't know what was going on in his police station for nigh on two days.

People fail to realise the circumstances of why pressure was put on Leonor Cipriano.  A young girl with a history of neglect was missing, her mother initially claimed she had been abducted then changed her mind claiming she had hit the girl, that she had hit her head off a wall and died of her injuries.  The police were desperate to find this child in case she was still alive and the mother was refusing to cooperate.  Little wonder she got a mild beating with a cardboard roll. I would have done the same in the circumstances, it might not be ethical but in those circumstances a speedy resolution was needed.

It's all very well people moralising after the event but they were not there or put in the unenviable position the police were put in. I cannot fault them.

[ShiningInLuz]

I think that Murat was picked on because The PJ in general knew that The McCanns could not have disposed of a body without local help.

Crikey!

[Angelo222]

I think that Murat was picked on because The PJ in general knew that The McCanns could not have disposed of a body without local help.

No, he was 'picked on' because several of the tapas group and an overzealous female reporter fingered him when all he had done was try to help by acting as an interpreter for them.  One even took part in a covert exercise to identify him.

As for disposing of a body, how hard would it have been to carry her off, hide her and return later when all had gone quiet?  Local help was never a necessity.