Did OC reception let Madeleine down?

[Robittybob1]

John Hill arrived on the balcony after the police were called; he arrived at the resort at 22. 33, then went to the 24 hour reception to see if the authorities had been notified. They hadn't, as we know, hence the 22.41 call at Hill's request. Then the trip to 5A;

The deponent went to the main reception to see if the authorities had been alerted, and fifteen minutes later went to the apartment being used by the McCanns
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JOHN_HILL.htm

22.50 he arrived at 5A, not 22.35; that was when Matt was allegedly sent to Reception for the second time, although no-one else mentions that.

You seem to favour John Hill's account.  If as you say the Police are not notified until 10:42 the OC have let MM down.

[Robittybob1]

There are witnesses who claim that the first GNR patrols arrive at 10:50 PM so I can only imagine there had been an earlier call in order to get such a sharp response.  The 10:52 call then sounds more like a confirmation back to the base that a patrol has finally arrived IMO.

[Robittybob1]

“Great minds think alike.”

This is actually a shortened version of a longer quote, of which there are two versions.
For the full quote, you want to say, “Great minds think alike, small minds rarely differ” or “Great minds think alike, and fools seldom differ.”

Is this why we always get a similar response from you and Stephen?

[Robittybob1]

Only one child disappeared that night. There is enough confusion surrounding what happened to Madeleine without adding to it.  Confusion caused, not so much by the OC reception immediately her disappearance was discovered but by subsequent events.

That is shocking logic Brietta, (sorry).

[G-Unit]

You seem to favour John Hill's account.  If as you say the Police are not notified until 10:42 the OC have let MM down.

John Hill's account fits with the evidence. It's no use trying to blame the OC, it doesn't wash. There are too many unanswered questions.  The only people shouting abduction were the McCanns.

If their friends believed them why did they run around PdL like headless chickens searching for Madeleine?
If Matt believed them why did he (allegedly) let himself be fobbed off by the receptionist?
If the MW employees believed them why did they mobilise crowds to search the resort?
If the McCanns were so sure why didn't they ring the police themselves?
If they didn't know the number they could have taken their mobiles to the Tapas and enlisted the help of Portuguese staff there.

Had it been my daughter I would have taken responsibility for getting the help I needed instead of relying on friends or ringing the UK.

[Alice Purjorick]

John Hill's account fits with the evidence. It's no use trying to blame the OC, it doesn't wash. There are too many unanswered questions.  The only people shouting abduction were the McCanns.

If their friends believed them why did they run around PdL like headless chickens searching for Madeleine?
If Matt believed them why did he (allegedly) let himself be fobbed off by the receptionist?
If the MW employees believed them why did they mobilise crowds to search the resort?
If the McCanns were so sure why didn't they ring the police themselves?
If they didn't know the number they could have taken their mobiles to the Tapas and enlisted the help of Portuguese staff there.

Had it been my daughter I would have taken responsibility for getting the help I needed instead of relying on friends or ringing the UK.

Therein lies a mystery. To use the current vernacular; why the marked reluctance to own their own problem ?

[Alfie]

John Hill's account fits with the evidence. It's no use trying to blame the OC, it doesn't wash. There are too many unanswered questions.  The only people shouting abduction were the McCanns.

If their friends believed them why did they run around PdL like headless chickens searching for Madeleine?
If Matt believed them why did he (allegedly) let himself be fobbed off by the receptionist?
If the MW employees believed them why did they mobilise crowds to search the resort?
If the McCanns were so sure why didn't they ring the police themselves?
If they didn't know the number they could have taken their mobiles to the Tapas and enlisted the help of Portuguese staff there.

Had it been my daughter I would have taken responsibility for getting the help I needed instead of relying on friends or ringing the UK.

That's what you say, who knows how you'd really behave in such a situation.  But in any case, the fact that the McCanns involved their nearest and dearest at the moment of their greatest distress and crisis should be another pointer that they are completely innocent of doing *you know what* (ie that which I'm not allowed to say).

[Robittybob1]

John Hill's account fits with the evidence. It's no use trying to blame the OC, it doesn't wash. There are too many unanswered questions.  The only people shouting abduction were the McCanns.

If their friends believed them why did they run around PdL like headless chickens searching for Madeleine?
If Matt believed them why did he (allegedly) let himself be fobbed off by the receptionist?
If the MW employees believed them why did they mobilise crowds to search the resort?
If the McCanns were so sure why didn't they ring the police themselves?
If they didn't know the number they could have taken their mobiles to the Tapas and enlisted the help of Portuguese staff there.

Had it been my daughter I would have taken responsibility for getting the help I needed instead of relying on friends or ringing the UK.

John Hill's account fits in with his statement maybe but how can you say it fits with the evidence, what evidence are you talking about.  It certainly doesn't fit with what Kate remembers.
Your questions are valid and as I've said there would be past experience on the basis of OC staff that most times the kids have just wandered off and will soon be found regardless of what the parents first think.

"If the MW employees believed them why did they mobilise crowds to search the resort?" Past experience.
"If the McCanns were so sure why didn't they ring the police themselves?"  They wish they had now Hindsight.
"If they didn't know the number they could have taken their mobiles to the Tapas and enlisted the help of Portuguese staff there."  Still required cooperation of staff who seem dominated by decisions from their many managers.

[Alfie]

John Hill's account fits with the evidence. It's no use trying to blame the OC, it doesn't wash. There are too many unanswered questions.  The only people shouting abduction were the McCanns.

If their friends believed them why did they run around PdL like headless chickens searching for Madeleine?
If Matt believed them why did he (allegedly) let himself be fobbed off by the receptionist?
If the MW employees believed them why did they mobilise crowds to search the resort?
If the McCanns were so sure why didn't they ring the police themselves?
If they didn't know the number they could have taken their mobiles to the Tapas and enlisted the help of Portuguese staff there.

Had it been my daughter I would have taken responsibility for getting the help I needed instead of relying on friends or ringing the UK.

I think your questions are really very silly indeed.  Why WOULDN'T you search the neighbourhood if you thought your child had been taken? 

[Robittybob1]

Therein lies a mystery. To use the current vernacular; why the marked reluctance to own their own problem ?

Bureaucracy possibly.  As Gerry and Kate had both worked in organisations,  maybe they were too aware of going through the right channels.  They still did the right thing to get OC aware there was a child missing and asked them through Matt to ring the Police.  That should have been enough.  Kate would have only been guessing if she was considering response times too slow.
The gardens needed to be searched first, it was the right decision.   Maybe they had agreed to search for 15 - 20 minutes then ring the GNR if she is NOT found.
Lyndsay organises the missing child search and they look for 20 minutes, MM is not found so they ring John Hill (back) at 10:28 PM.

[G-Unit]

That's what you say, who knows how you'd really behave in such a situation.  But in any case, the fact that the McCanns involved their nearest and dearest at the moment of their greatest distress and crisis should be another pointer that they are completely innocent of doing *you know what* (ie that which I'm not allowed to say).

I know myself pretty well, that's why I can say what I would dd. I don't scream, kick or delegate, I take control.

They rang their nearest and dearest why?

To make sure they all knew which crime the detective doctors 'just knew' had been committed.
To tell them about the apartment being broken into.
To complain about the police doing nothing and leaving them all alone.
To tell them all about the paedophile gangs in Portugal.
To ask them to pray.

[Alfie]

I know myself pretty well, that's why I can say what I would dd. I don't scream, kick or delegate, I take control.

They rang their nearest and dearest why?

To make sure they all knew which crime the detective doctors 'just knew' had been committed.
To tell them about the apartment being broken into.
To complain about the police doing nothing and leaving them all alone.
To tell them all about the paedophile gangs in Portugal.
To ask them to pray.

OK, so some people seek comfort from their nearest and dearest in moments of extreme trauma, cry, kick scream, do whatever it takes to vent their feelings and some like yourself "take control" and  swan about being super efficient and cool as - clearly you are the superior being.  Well done you.

[John]

Robittybob1

Please do not post any further references to a 'prank' as it is taking up valuable resources editing them out.
No further warnings will be issued!

[sadie]

Stop blaming others for the mistakes of the Mccanns.

They are responsible for instigating this case, and so far, no one else has been found accountable for what happened.

Too often it seems, it is easier to blame others for your own mistakes.

No blame in my post, just an opinion, which we were asked to give.

Why are you so touchy that you came to the wrong conclusion?

[stephen25000]

No blame in my post, just an opinion, which we were asked to give.

Why are you so touchy that you came to the wrong conclusion?

Whose touchy Sadie ?

I merely pointed out the truth.

The McCann's initiated this case, and no other party has been found to be involved.

After all, I have an opinion as well, and why should I agree with yours ? &%+((£

By the way Sadie, why shouldn't the McCann's take full responsibility for their actions in failing to keep their children safe ?