They were just 50m away, just like dining in ones back garden?

[Lace]

not beliveing some one is not disrespectful so either SIL is following their own agenda and slapping  a gagging order on you then that should be reported to John.  If SIL is not happy with me  not beliveing the family and thinking this as a form of disrespect then SIL has no place being a mod, because their opinions is no better than mine. But I suspect this is not the case. There is NO independant witness account of a 30 minute check taking place. That is a fact so what I believe is irrelevent.

The thing is the McCann's said they checked every 30 minutes,  the waiter said people were leaving the table.  If there has to be an independent witness to everything then who is to say they even went to the Tapas Bar?

[Alfie]

They said they checked every 30 minutes. Is that the same as they did check every 30 minutes?

What do the waiters say regarding the comings and goings that evening?  Were there any according to them?

[ShiningInLuz]

not believing some one is not disrespectful so either SIL is following their own agenda and slapping  a gagging order on you then that should be reported to John.  If SIL is not happy with me  not believing the family and thinking this as a form of disrespect then SIL has no place being a mod, because their opinion is no better than mine. But I suspect this is not the case. There is NO independent witness account of a 30 minute check taking place. That is a fact so what I believe is irrelevant.

I do believe I have been misrepresented again, so let me try to clarify.  And no this response is not directed to MTI.

Slagging anyone off, whether that is Kate and Gerry, Amaral, Grime, Harrison, Murat, Malinka or the citizens of Luz (and other folks), is not going to happen unless one can provide the evidence to support one's view, or alternatively label it with a clear IMO.  It's not a difficult idea.

[Alfie]

The most glaring example is the money given by well wishers in the misguided belief that all of it would be used to help find a lost little girl they obviously cared about. Perhaps if they had known that a great chunk of their money would be spent on libel lawyers they may have been less keen to have their heartstrings pulled?

Perhaps.  Then again, perhaps not.  What was it you said on another post?  "Perhaps you would look less foolish if you simply did not make these unprovable claims in the first place". 

Every supporter I know (and I know a few) has donated to the fund (more than once in most cases),  not to mention plenty of empathy and emotional support when required, without feeling remotely used and abused.  How do you fathom that one out?  I expect we're all mentally deranged, or members of the Child Neglect Supporters Club or something, eh Faithlilly?

[jassi]

What do the waiters say regarding the comings and goings that evening?  Were there any according to them?

There's mention of people leaving table, but not where they went.
Diane left  to go to't lavie  @)(++( or so I read on here)

[Alfie]

There's mention of people leaving table, but not where they went.
Diane left  to go to't lavie  @)(++( or so I read on here)

So they were baso all getting up regularly to go to the lav, righto.

[jassi]

So they were baso all getting up regularly to go to the lav, righto.

Gerry went to't lavie as well, who who knows what the others got up to 

[Lace]

I do believe I have been misrepresented again, so let me try to clarify.  And no this response is not directed to MTI.

Slagging anyone off, whether that is Kate and Gerry, Amaral, Grime, Harrison, Murat, Malinka or the citizens of Luz (and other folks), is not going to happen unless one can provide the evidence to support one's view, or alternatively label it with a clear IMO.  It's not a difficult idea.

Directed at me I expect.

You said nothing about putting IMO on my posts you deleted them,  so why haven't you deleted MTI and G-Units?

[Miss Taken Identity]

So they were baso all getting up regularly to go to the lav, righto.

Well we don't know where they went when they left the table due to the fact the waiters/staff didn't follow them. So, therefore the waiters /staff are only witness to the comings and goings without knowing exact times and who left and returned at what time and where they went. Deep sigh... hmmm

[ShiningInLuz]

Directed at me I expect.

You said nothing about putting IMO on my posts you deleted them,  so why haven't you deleted MTI and G-Units?

Que? I almost never delete a post.

Mind you, I fully expect this post (mine) to be deleted come the morning.

[Alfie]

Well we don't know where they went when they left the table due to the fact the waiters/staff didn't follow them. So, therefore the waiters /staff are only witness to the comings and goings without knowing exact times and who left and returned at what time and where they went. Deep sigh... hmmm

So, where might they have been going that wasn't back to their own apartments do you think?

[Alfie]

Gerry went to't lavie as well, who who knows what the others got up to 

Where was this "lavie"?

[jassi]

I believe there was one out near the reception area. Jez reputedly visited as well so it sounds popular.

Sadie is likely to know as she's done site visits.

[Alfie]

I believe there was one out near the reception area. Jez reputedly visited as well so it sounds popular.

Sadie is likely to know as she's done site visits.

So we're back to the notion that the Tapas group are all liars are we?  I see.  What was Gerry doing outside his apartment when Jez bumped into him then?  Taking the scenic route back from the "lavie" I suppose... &%+((£

[jassi]

So we're back to the notion that the Tapas group are all liars are we?  I see.  What was Gerry doing outside his apartment when Jez bumped into him then?  Taking the scenic route back from the "lavie" I suppose... &%+((£

He had his own private loo, him being a consultant and all that