Author Topic: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)  (Read 90888 times)

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Offline Benice

Doctors listen to patients, conduct physical examinations, then guess what may be wrong using their knowledge and experience.

Detectives listen to the witnesses, examine the scene, then guess what may have happened using their knowledge and experience.

Both then look for further evidence to support or disprove their initial assessments.

In this case two doctors broadcast their opinion worldwide, bypassing the detectives and making their work very difficult thereafter. Strangely, Alex Woolfall said they held no such opinion at first, but how he missed the pleas they made in the media to 'whoever has Madeleine' I can't imagine.

Actually it was Amaral who 'bypassed' the parents and instead chose to rely on second hand reports from others to make his assessments of a couple whom he personally had never met or spoken to.   

Perhaps if he had personally spoken to them, listened to them and observed them - he might have made a different assessment.   We shall never know.

IMO

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
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Offline Lace

I watched some of the video's but stopped after so long,  it is so ridiculous.

He says that when describing Madeleine's birth,  they found something wrong with Madeleine by saying she was loud.   They were joking for gods sake,  Gerry then went on to joke that she was a McCann,  because he is loud.  This man makes out that they had something against Madeleine from day one.

Then he goes on to say they are talking about her as if she is deceased,  they were talking about her because they were asked to talk about her as a baby!!

Kate was concerned about herself he said,  no,  they were asked about what happened and how far away they were etc.    Kate didn't show any concern to what may have been happening to Madeleine,  it was weeks later they did that interview,  perhaps if they had interviewed her straight away they would have seen she was screaming, shouting and crying hysterically.   Stupid man.

Anyway when Kate did say what visions she had,   what she thought may have been happening to Madeleine in her book,  people made out she was a pervert.

Offline pathfinder73

Somebody hid her very well and he was seen. SY were in Luz trying to find evidence of where. That's what Amaral was trying to do when he was removed. Find evidence of that hiding place. Nothing has changed.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Miss Taken Identity


Doing everything they could to keep Madeleine in the public eye - including being interviewed - are not the actions of people who wanted to distance themselves from their daughter imo.

If they had wanted to distance themselves from Madeleine they would have come home and kept their heads down until the case faded into obscurity.    Instead they did everything in their power to keep her in the public's mind and constantly pressed for her case to be re-opened.

IOW they did the exact opposite of distancing themselves.

AIMHO

Emotionally distancing themselves. Other genuine people who have lost children talk about their children in first terms IE  My daughter, my Madeleine, our daughter, our precious daughter, my baby... etc...

Constantly pressed for the case to be reopened why? what new leads were there? what reason did they give? what evidence was there of an intruder that wasn't investigated at the time?

doing everything? not answering 48 questions and refusing to to a reconstruction to clarify the timeline? holding onto an possible important photo fit of 'smithman' OK if you say so.
« Last Edit: November 26, 2016, 04:51:40 PM by ShiningInLuz »
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Offline Robittybob1

As are other professions.
I say doctor because Kate is a doctor.  The diagnosis - Madeleine has been taken.
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

I say doctor because Kate is a doctor.  The diagnosis - Madeleine has been taken.

That is a statement being passed off as Fact. There is no evidence of her being taken. Officially Maddie is 'missing' not'taken,kiddknapped,abducted'.
A diagnosis is arrived at after investigating symptoms and eliminating all other reasons for  a health condition.
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Offline Robittybob1

Somebody hid her very well and he was seen. SY were in Luz trying to find evidence of where. That's what Amaral was trying to do when he was removed. Find evidence of that hiding place. Nothing has changed.
He blames the parents for hiding the body.  Does he say anything about who staged the abduction scene?  Does he go along with Amaral and say the friends were somehow involved too?
OK Smithman was seen but was it Madeleine?  Who was he?   Don't you think she could have been alive and hence hidden inside a house?
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stephen25000

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Doing everything they could to keep Madeleine in the public eye - including being interviewed - are not the actions of people who wanted to distance themselves from their daughter imo.

If they had wanted to distance themselves from Madeleine they would have come home and kept their heads down until the case faded into obscurity.    Instead they did everything in their power to keep her in the public's mind and constantly pressed for her case to be re-opened.

IOW they did the exact opposite of distancing themselves.

AIMHO

They put themselves in the public glare, and as we know within days, a fund was set up for two people who were supposed to have highly paid jobs.

They then proceeded to put out the begging bowl to other people, so the Mccanns would not pay for their own mistakes.

As for searching themselves, that ended the morning after Madeleine disappeared.

Offline Robittybob1

That is a statement being passed off as Fact. There is no evidence of her being taken. Officially Maddie is 'missing' not'taken,kiddknapped,abducted'.
A diagnosis is arrived at after investigating symptoms and eliminating all other reasons for  a health condition.
The short term quickfire diagnosis seems to have been correct for they never did come across a hidden body in and around PDL have they.
I'm just talking about Kate's immediate diagnosis - she been taken.  Longer term Kate hopes Madeleine was a replacement child for some couple who have looked after Madeleine all these years.  I've heard her say that in an interview.
Did the long term view have a connection to the short term diagnosis?  How does that all fit in with a staged crime scene and cadaver odours. A living Madeleine won't be producing cadaver odours.
I think there is some other story not yet told to explain this mess.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

I say doctor because Kate is a doctor.  The diagnosis - Madeleine has been taken.

Stepping outside her field of expertise to pass comment.
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Offline Robittybob1

Stepping outside her field of expertise to pass comment.
She is a doctor and a mother who loved her child and knew Madeleine's usual behaviour e.g. if she had wandered off she would have taken cuddlecat with her.
I'm not so sure she would have put her shoes on by herself though as Amy thought.  Kate has never mentioned that Madeleine would do that.
Both Amy and Kate agreed in the early stages she had been taken, yet the searches were for someone who had wandered basically, but would also cover circumstance where someone has taken her and dumped her closeby.
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Offline Lace

They put themselves in the public glare, and as we know within days, a fund was set up for two people who were supposed to have highly paid jobs.

They then proceeded to put out the begging bowl to other people, so the Mccanns would not pay for their own mistakes.

As for searching themselves, that ended the morning after Madeleine disappeared.

They put themselves in the public glare in order to keep Madeleine's name alive in the media for gods sake.

The fund was set up because they needed somewhere to put all the money they were given for the search for Madeleine,  you make the fund sound so disgusting with your 'begging bowl' comment.   Listen many people who have a child missing have a fund for that child,  they are begging,  begging for their child to be found,  you can give to it or not it's your choice.

The last sentence I am going to ignore,  because you know very well why the McCann's couldn't go and search.

I watched a programme about two little girls who vanished on their way to school.   The father of one of them said he searched,  but then he said he had to leave it to the police,  and how difficult it was to leave it to the police,  I wonder what he would think if he read what you are saying.

Offline Robittybob1

Peter Hyatt emphasises the use of the polygraph.  Did the McCanns refuse to take a polygraph?
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ferryman

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What has this appalling case got to do with Madeleine's disappearance?  Are you tying to insinuate something here?

They do it all the time, Alfie.

On a board that hypocritically professes to be concerned with avoiding libel ...

Offline Alice Purjorick

She is a doctor and a mother who loved her child and knew Madeleine's usual behaviour e.g. if she had wandered off she would have taken cuddlecat with her.
I'm not so sure she would have put her shoes on by herself though as Amy thought.  Kate has never mentioned that Madeleine would do that.
Both Amy and Kate agreed in the early stages she had been taken, yet the searches were for someone who had wandered basically, but would also cover circumstance where someone has taken her and dumped her closeby.

1 So?
2 Are there any photos of Madeleine cluctching CuddleCat?
3.What is Amy's expertise in the field of child abduction?
4. If everyone was so sure she had been taken and borders should have been closed etc why were they looking only a block away or less?
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