McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)

[G-Unit]

Amy was at the night creche when the call was made so it was not possible for her to be in 5A before that time. DW went there first - Kate alone. Fiona went next - EK found Kate and Fiona - nobody else.

DW and Fiona saw no open window or shutters.

[Lace]

So what does that mean?

That I wasn't surprised.

[Robittybob1]

Amy was at the night creche when the call was made so it was not possible for her to be in 5A before that time. DW went there first - Kate alone. Fiona went next - EK found Kate and Fiona - nobody else.

You are making that up.  Amy was at the night creche when the tourist came in and reported that a girl called Maddie was missing.  The staff deduced it was Madeleine McCann so Amy went to the apartment.  It was before any phone calls were made.

[Robittybob1]

That I wasn't surprised.

Wasn't surprised about what? 

[Robittybob1]

DW and Fiona saw no open window or shutters.

Long after others had closed them.  That is obvious they aren't going to be up or open after they have been lowered and closed.

There might even be some significance that Fiona and Dianne (both from one family) report this casting doubt on Kate's initial observation.

[jassi]

Long after others had closed them.  That is obvious they aren't going to be up or open after they have been lowered and closed.

Who are these others?  Why did they tamper with evidence?

[Robittybob1]

Who are these others?  Why did they tamper with evidence?

I think it is possible to find out who did this but I haven't done so as yet.  The "why did they tamper with evidence?" question is a bit more problematic for it would depend on foreknowledge.
If we analysed their statements we might pick up on foreknowledge .  Have you got spare months/years to devote to that task?

[pathfinder73]

You are making that up.  Amy was at the night creche when the tourist came in and reported that a girl called Maddie was missing.  The staff deduced it was Madeleine McCann so Amy went to the apartment.  It was before any phone calls were made.

BS! DW said Kate was alone no Amy. Fiona came next no Amy so unless can provide one piece of evidence (which you can't!) to back any of this up I would drop it. The window was closed when the police arrived. The first two GNR officers on the scene didn't belive the McCanns abduction claim.

"At the time of her arrival at the apartment the window would have been closed." DW 11 May 2007

You haven't got one member of the group saying they saw the window open have you?

[Robittybob1]

BS! DW said Kate was alone no Amy. Fiona came next no Amy so unless can provide one piece of evidence (which you can't!) to back any of this up I would drop it. The window was closed when the police arrived. The first two GNR officers on the scene didn't belive the McCanns abduction story.

"At the time of her arrival at the apartment the window would have been closed." DW 11 May 2007

You haven't got one member of the group saying they saw the window open have you?

Dianne Webster remained at the table.  It was when Dianne Webster was still at the table that I propose Amy went to the apartment.  Don't you believe that Dianne Webster stayed behind. 
So I say you are still wrong on the timing.

By the time DW goes to the apartment the window may well have been closed, but the logic of that must mean that Amy T arrived there and had already left before Dianne Webster appeared in the apartment.  How can anything be any more evident than that?

[pathfinder73]

Dianne Webster remained at the table.  It was when Dianne Webster was still at the table that I propose Amy went to the apartment.  Don't you believe that Dianne Webster stayed behind. 
So I say you are still wrong on the timing.

DW didn't stay at the table for long. David told her to leave after checking the tapas area and she went straight to 5A where she found Kate alone. The mother was probably arriving at the night creche a bit later where Amy was working so she wasn't at 5A. Not one of the tapas group saw it open so how can Amy see it open? Her statement doesn't fit with the facts.

[Robittybob1]

DW didn't stay at the table for long. David told her to leave after checking the tapas area and she went straight to 5A where she found Kate alone. The mother was probably arriving at the night creche around that time if she was quick where Amy was so she wasn't there until later.

Still enough time for Amy to come and go.  And you reckon that David told her to leave the table?    Where was that?  In her statement only I suppose?

[pathfinder73]

Still enough time for Amy to come and go.

The night creche is a good distance away.  If she did she would have been seen by others e.g. DW or FP.

[Robittybob1]

The night creche is a good distance away.  If she did she would have been seen by others e.g. DW or FP.

That doesn't mean you should believe the Paynes and disbelieve the McCanns.
Does Gerry say he saw the window open and the shutters up?
Does Kate say she saw the window open and the shutters up?
Does Amy T say she saw the window open and the shutters up?

Now are you saying the Paynes say nothing about this but later Dianne Webster makes a point they are down.  That does not prove anything but definitely allows for the possibility that someone lowered the shutters and closed the window before DW turned up.

Do DW or FP mention Emma Knight?  Check it.  If they don't mention EK why would they mention AmyT?

[Robittybob1]

The night creche is a good distance away. If she did she would have been seen by others e.g. DW or FP.

You can't be sure of that, and even if they had would they mention it in their statements?

[Robittybob1]

You can't be sure of that, and even if they had would they mention it in their statements?

Emma is mentioned by Fiona but from that you can't tell when she arrived.

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 'Gerry was coming and going. Dave came in and, erm, he came in initially with me, erm, when I went to Kate, I don't think he went in any of the bedrooms, I think he was just mainly in the living room trying to put together what they should all be doing really, he was talking more to Gerry, so he was in. I didn't see Russell or any of the other group in, in Kate and Gerry's apartment. Fairly soon after, erm, a girl called Emma, who, I don't know what her position in MARK WARNER was, she was sort of, erm, tut, I don't know what you call them, she was mainly working at the reception area, just as a, erm, tut, I don't know what you call her job title, she was sort of looking after everybody'.
 
 
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 'Just one of the travel assistants or something, yeah''
 
 
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 'Yeah. Erm, huh, I mean, I don't know what time she got there, it seemed quite early on, she was, she was in the room for the most part, it was me, Emma and Kate with Gerry and Dave sort of to'ing and fro'ing until the first lot of Police arrived'.