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Offline mercury

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #495 on: December 14, 2016, 01:38:09 AM »
To clarify yet again the saying ... "confusion is good" which is oft times attributed to Madeleine's father but more properly may be attributed to "The Slave"

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"Confusion is good"
It is falsely but nevertheless frequently claimed by anti-McCann posters that Gerry McCann used the phrase "confusion is good" in the above interview.   It is possible that this false claim has its roots in a comment which was posted under the video on the STV website:-
 
Quote by "The Slave" on 9th February 2010
"Confusion is good ? For you maybe, Gerry."
 
However, this expression was not at any time used by Gerry McCann in the interview.
http://madeleinemythsexposed.pbworks.com/w/page/39078182/Rebuttal%20of%20%22Fact%22%2039

Gerry mccann DID say it was a good thng that there was confusion, so why try bury this fact!

He was talking about confusion is good for an abductor in his interview


He said it and it stands

why did you leave this fact out of your diatribe

Offline Brietta

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #496 on: December 14, 2016, 02:08:22 AM »
Gerry mccann DID say it was a good thng that there was confusion, so why try bury this fact!

He was talking about confusion is good for an abductor in his interview


He said it and it stands

why did you leave this fact out of your diatribe

STV Interview with Gerry McCann (following starts at position 3:10)
Quote:

Gerry McCann: "The current level of activity, you know, I think you're absolutely right, there is a huge amount of innuendo which is being presented in various ways, suggesting that there may be evidence or facts behind it and there are none, and our opinion of what happened that night has not changed. We know certain facts, unfortunately because of the criminal investigation, we can't divulge them, and I want to make it absolutely clear, the reasons why we're not divulging the information; we will not make it easier for the perpetrator to cover their tracks. The police have all the information and we have bared our soul to them, and we'll continue to assist them in any way possible, but, you know, we have to keep silent.  And, in fact, one of the slight positives in... in all of this is that there is so much rumour about what did and didn't happen, it's actually very difficult, if you're reading the newspapers, watching TV, to know what is true and what's not."
End quote

"Confusion is good"
It is falsely but nevertheless frequently claimed by anti-McCann posters that Gerry McCann used the phrase "confusion is good" in the above interview.   It is possible that this false claim has its roots in a comment which was posted under the video on the STV website:-
 
Quote by "The Slave" on 9th February 2010
"Confusion is good ? For you maybe, Gerry."
 
However, this expression was not at any time used by Gerry McCann in the interview.
 
Conclusion
Gerry McCann was not praising the amount of innuendo and erroneous media coverage during this interview.  He did however state that a "slight positive" was that the perpetrator was not being helped to cover his tracks by gaining factual information about the investigation.
http://madeleinemythsexposed.pbworks.com/w/page/39078182/Rebuttal%20of%20%22Fact%22%2039
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline mercury

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #497 on: December 14, 2016, 03:03:34 AM »
I said the same as you so why you felt the need to write tonnes is beyond me lol
What exactly is your problem here?

Offline slartibartfast

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #498 on: December 14, 2016, 07:05:49 AM »
Police forces are trying to find Madeleine for the McCann family, not a bunch of strangers passing the time on the internet.

Actually that is a by product, the police try and find people for themselves because they are missing.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #499 on: December 14, 2016, 07:45:01 AM »
I don't have any problem bashing the McCanns if they deserve bashing.

Make your mind up.  Is it about the McCanns?  Or is it about Madeleine?

You have failed miserably to give any reason why release of the files would help the search.......you have just produced general statements  such as clarity is good. You have then descended into insulting posters who disagree with you.

Madeleine is the most important person here but bashing the parents does not help Maddie.

It is common knowledge taht you were offended by the Mccanns refusal of your help in the search. It seems you are now more interested in bashing the mcCanns than any interest in maddie
« Last Edit: December 14, 2016, 08:51:36 AM by davel »

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #500 on: December 14, 2016, 09:18:45 AM »
Seriously, what would you intend to do should such information be released into the public domain - seek out the trafficking gangs on the Algarve?
Is there any evidence of trafficking gangs on the Algarve in the files?  If there is, I've missed it!

OK, Gerry appears to have been on his phone quite soon after the disappearance talking about paedophile rings.  Quite why he was ahead of the game on this is anyone's idea.

But trafficking gangs on the Algarve?  I think you need a smidgin of evidence if you want that idea to stand.
What's up, old man?

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #501 on: December 14, 2016, 09:25:14 AM »
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It is common knowledge taht you were offended by the Mccanns refusal of your help in the search. It seems you are now more interested in bashing the mcCanns than any interest in maddie
Please get your facts right.  The McCanns are not now and never have refused my offer of help.
What's up, old man?

Offline slartibartfast

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #502 on: December 14, 2016, 09:25:48 AM »
Is there any evidence of trafficking gangs on the Algarve in the files?  If there is, I've missed it!

OK, Gerry appears to have been on his phone quite soon after the disappearance talking about paedophile rings.  Quite why he was ahead of the game on this is anyone's idea.

But trafficking gangs on the Algarve?  I think you need a smidgin of evidence if you want that idea to stand.

People trafficking is usually incoming in Europe.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Benice

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #503 on: December 14, 2016, 09:45:28 AM »
Is there any evidence of trafficking gangs on the Algarve in the files?  If there is, I've missed it!

OK, Gerry appears to have been on his phone quite soon after the disappearance talking about paedophile rings.  Quite why he was ahead of the game on this is anyone's idea.

But trafficking gangs on the Algarve?  I think you need a smidgin of evidence if you want that idea to stand.

Quote from Amaral's book.

 The Algarvian coast, very popular with sailing enthusiasts, is bordered by a large number of marinas. Pleasure boats from every province berth here. Situated 120 nautical miles from the African continent, between the Mediterranean and the Atlantic, it is the most accessible coast for entering the continent of Europe. It attracts many yachtsmen, who appreciate the beauty of its beaches and its inlets, but it also attracts all sorts of traffickers.
End quote


The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #504 on: December 14, 2016, 09:55:46 AM »
Quote from Amaral's book.

 The Algarvian coast, very popular with sailing enthusiasts, is bordered by a large number of marinas. Pleasure boats from every province berth here. Situated 120 nautical miles from the African continent, between the Mediterranean and the Atlantic, it is the most accessible coast for entering the continent of Europe. It attracts many yachtsmen, who appreciate the beauty of its beaches and its inlets, but it also attracts all sorts of traffickers.
End quote
We appear to have gone in quick order from paedophile rings to people traffickers to drug traffickers.
What's up, old man?

Offline Benice

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #505 on: December 14, 2016, 10:03:04 AM »
Is there any evidence of trafficking gangs on the Algarve in the files?  If there is, I've missed it!

OK, Gerry appears to have been on his phone quite soon after the disappearance talking about paedophile rings.  Quite why he was ahead of the game on this is anyone's idea.

But trafficking gangs on the Algarve?  I think you need a smidgin of evidence if you want that idea to stand.

I'm surprised that anyone can read anything 'sinister' into Gerry's fears that paedophiles had taken Madeleine.

On hearing the news - my very first thought was that she had been abducted by a paedophile - and without exception so did everyone else I spoke to.

'Taken by a paedophile' is the most common reason why little girls are abducted - and so IMO it was quite natural for Gerry to think along those lines.

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Alfie

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Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #506 on: December 14, 2016, 10:21:09 AM »
Anyone who believes the McCanns deliberately put obstacles in the course of the investigation by promoting confusion as a good thing is going to struggle also with the concept that McCann solicited translated files are accurate and unbiased, so why demand them in the first place?  Also, are those calling for the McCanns to release into the public domain their version of the files expecting them to release ALL the inormation gathered by the original investigation, including those bits the PJ deemed unsuitable for release? 

Offline Benice

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #507 on: December 14, 2016, 10:25:29 AM »
We appear to have gone in quick order from paedophile rings to people traffickers to drug traffickers.

You asked for a 'smidgin' of evidence of trafficking gangs in the Algarve.     According to Amaral - ''all sorts of traffickers' are attracted to the Algarve.  That sounds like 'evidence' to me.

IMO
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #508 on: December 14, 2016, 10:32:35 AM »
I'm surprised that anyone can read anything 'sinister' into Gerry's fears that paedophiles had taken Madeleine.

On hearing the news - my very first thought was that she had been abducted by a paedophile - and without exception so did everyone else I spoke to.

'Taken by a paedophile' is the most common reason why little girls are abducted - and so IMO it was quite natural for Gerry to think along those lines.
I wasn't reading anything sinister into anything.

Gerry had paedo rings on his mind early doors.

We have had people trafficking rings thus far.  Perhaps I should include the Lagos slave market (museum) on my tours?  It is believed to be the oldest slave market in Europe.

Drug trafficking?  I have no doubts that if I really wanted to I could get my hands on some illegal drugs.  Just as I have no doubt any forum member could do the same.

The Algarve isn't 100% legit, of that I am certain.  But it isn't the frontier of the Wild West either.

Either the McCanns felt safe enough to leave the patio doors unlocked OR they were stupid beyond belief.

So is Luz and the Algarve safe?  Or were the McCanns dimwits?
What's up, old man?

Offline pathfinder73

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #509 on: December 14, 2016, 10:34:43 AM »
"I was beginning to get past my early certainty that Madeleine must have been taken by a paedophile and murdered." Madeleine
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.