Author Topic: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?  (Read 76616 times)

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Offline Brietta

Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #450 on: December 18, 2016, 07:53:59 PM »
To be fair, there hasn't been enough evidence to arrest anyone. It's not just about the McCann's guilt or innocence.

Who else was given arguido status apart from Murat?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #451 on: December 18, 2016, 07:55:37 PM »

Of course it is fair. The fact that there is no evidence does not mean that someone is innocent.
Many criminal escape justice because of lack of evidence.

Is that sweeping generalisation applicable to Murat?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Mr Gray

Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #452 on: December 18, 2016, 07:55:57 PM »
Entirely off the top of my head ... I would consider proof to be corroborated evidence that an event has taken place substantiated by forensics if necessary.

By the nature of human beings, I would consider eye witness evidence to be valuable but I would consider it proof of an event only if backed up by CCTV or something else substantial and independent.

It should not be off the top of your head
There are 3 levels of proof
Absolute
Beyond reasonable doubt
Balance of probabilities
That's it

Offline jassi

Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #453 on: December 18, 2016, 07:59:14 PM »
Is that sweeping generalisation applicable to Murat?

Sure, why not? 
Only the other day, some paper  had to backtrack and issue an apology to him over something or other. No doubt he is stuck with this for life.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

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Offline jassi

Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #454 on: December 18, 2016, 08:00:44 PM »
Who else was given arguido status apart from Murat?

At least 4 other people, who's names I don't know.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Robittybob1

Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #455 on: December 18, 2016, 08:02:07 PM »
Who else was given arguido status apart from Murat?
There have been 6 others in the McCann case that I know of.
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stephen25000

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Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #456 on: December 18, 2016, 08:06:14 PM »
0% on that basis, for anything other than missing.

Yep.

Offline Brietta

Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #457 on: December 18, 2016, 08:07:53 PM »
At least 4 other people, who's names I don't know.

Do you have any explanation as to why no one has set up Facebook pages, YouTube endeavours and blogs for the purpose of "asking questions" of these individuals, given that their names are in the public domain?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Robittybob1

Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #458 on: December 18, 2016, 08:10:42 PM »
Yep.
Because the patio door was unlocked all possibilities have to be considered from wandering off, to caring citizens to murderers. 
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Offline jassi

Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #459 on: December 18, 2016, 08:11:40 PM »
Do you have any explanation as to why no one has set up Facebook pages, YouTube endeavours and blogs for the purpose of "asking questions" of these individuals, given that their names are in the public domain?

No. Why should I ?
 I have mentioned on numerous occasions that I don't do Facebook or Twitter, so have no idea what is posted there.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

stephen25000

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Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #460 on: December 18, 2016, 08:17:21 PM »
Because the patio door was unlocked all possibilities have to be considered from wandering off, to caring citizens to murderers.

Yet, absolutely nothing to show anyone else in the apartment on that night, than those known to be there.

Certainly, no scuff marks on the window or walls, inside or outside.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #461 on: December 18, 2016, 08:23:28 PM »
Yet, absolutely nothing to show anyone else in the apartment on that night, than those known to be there.

Certainly, no scuff marks on the window or walls, inside or outside.
I think they found hairs that have not been matched to people known to have been in the apartment.
We were listing the known people in the apartment in that week and it got to well over 20.
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stephen25000

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Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #462 on: December 18, 2016, 08:30:33 PM »
I think they found hairs that have not been matched to people known to have been in the apartment.
We were listing the known people in the apartment in that week and it got to well over 20.

Well, clearly other people had been in the apartment prior to that date, so again proving nothing.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #463 on: December 18, 2016, 08:35:18 PM »
Well, clearly other people had been in the apartment prior to that date, so again proving nothing.
What date?  Prior to the time (date) of collecting hairs for the forensic analysis.  Is this the date you are talking about?  So some of those hairs are from someone who has not admitted being in there.
There is always the request for those with an innocent reason to come  forward and be eliminated.
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Offline jassi

Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #464 on: December 18, 2016, 08:39:05 PM »
It was a holiday let, so any number of unknown people might have been in over a period of a year or two.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future