Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.

[Alice Purjorick]

So once again no cite

Continuing the ornithological theme started by another poster:
It may have been snatched up by a cite hawk.


Sorry Mods 

[Alfie]

Is that your best shot? "I Alfie know a bloody sight better than two police forces". I remain unconvinced.
Is the Sea Eagle indigenous to the Algarve?

p.s. I will post against your posts within forum rules until Admin tell me I can't. You know what to do if you don't like it. Your huffing and puffing is singularly unimpressive.

Fine, back on ignore for you then - sorry to spoil your fun little boy. 

[Alfie]

Clue to what ?

If sedation was a fact, then it could only be by parents or an abductor, who may or may not exist.
 Given that it would be impossible to prove either option, how would that take anything forward?

If you don't think that it would have been important to establish whether or not the children were sedated and if so with what and how then that's your prerogative.  I would have thought any clue as to what happened would have been better than none, but that's just stupid ol' little me.

[Mr Gray]

Kindly do some of your own donkey work once in a while.  There is only one report on file from the 4 May 2007 Lisbon CSI team.

And without seeing it I will guarantee it does not mention anaesthetics as you claim

[jassi]

If you don't think that it would have been important to establish whether or not the children were sedated and if so with what and how then that's your prerogative.  I would have thought any clue as to what happened would have been better than none, but that's just stupid ol' little me.

Which 'what happened' are you referring to - sedation or disappearance?  The two are not necessarily connected

[ShiningInLuz]

So once again no cite

You have made a string of claims for which you have been asked for further explanation, and you have refused to provide it.  The classic in this thread is that you have 40 years experience of sedation, but when asked to illuminate us, you have refused to help.  That is called being unresponsive.

The previous classic was insisting that non-Portuguese speakers were being forced to read statements in Portuguese.  You were invited on multiple occasions to check the actual Portuguese, because such a concept was nonsense.  You repeatedly failed to check the actual Portuguese, even though the issue was explained to you in simple English.  You were being unresponsive.

You have raised the concept in this thread that 1) the topic in not about drugged as per the thread title, but about sedation, and 2) that we should all accept your premise that we should only use Kate-speak and 3) that you know more about sedation than we do.  Without of course providing a shred of evidence.  Perhaps this is a surprise, but I am unresponsive.

Whilst I don't care as to whether the correct term is drugged, sedated or anaesthetised, it appears you do.  But will you actually check? It appears you are unresponsive.

[Mr Gray]

You have made a string of claims for which you have been asked for further explanation, and you have refused to provide it.  The classic in this thread is that you have 40 years experience of sedation, but when asked to illuminate us, you have refused to help.  That is called being unresponsive.

The previous classic was insisting that non-Portuguese speakers were being forced to read statements in Portuguese.  You were invited on multiple occasions to check the actual Portuguese, because such a concept was nonsense.  You repeatedly failed to check the actual Portuguese, even though the issue was explained to you in simple English.  You were being unresponsive.

You have raised the concept in this thread that 1) the topic in not about drugged as per the thread title, but about sedation, and 2) that we should all accept your premise that we should only use Kate-speak and 3) that you know more about sedation than we do.  Without of course providing a shred of evidence.  Perhaps this is a surprise, but I am unresponsive.

Whilst I don't care as to whether the correct term is drugged, sedated or anaesthetised, it appears you do.  But will you actually check? It appears you are unresponsive.

40 yrs experience in sedation
I have explained that posters can take my word or not
I am obviously not prepared to reveal my true name there are simply too many nutters about
I have revealed my true name to one of the mods who can access my website if they wish

Your claim the non Portuguese speakers being asked to read statements in Portuguese is totally untrue
You seem more than a little confused
The posts are all ther so find one if you can
You will not be able
Try sticking to the truth

If you are going to criticise Kate you should be accurate
You are not

still no cite from you

[stephen25000]

No more hearsay please davel.

Provide cites not opinions, because if you can't do that, and say what you post is based on experience, then anybody on here can do the same, with equal justification.

[Mr Gray]

No more hearsay please davel.

Provide cites not opinions, because if you can't do that, and say what you post is based on experience, then anybody on here can do the same, with equal justification.

I am providing my opinion based on 40 yrs of sedation experience
You don't have to accept but anyone with any SENSE should be able to see I am genuine again one of the mods knows my name and can access my website

[Alice Purjorick]

You have made a string of claims for which you have been asked for further explanation, and you have refused to provide it.  The classic in this thread is that you have 40 years experience of sedation, but when asked to illuminate us, you have refused to help.  That is called being unresponsive.

The previous classic was insisting that non-Portuguese speakers were being forced to read statements in Portuguese.  You were invited on multiple occasions to check the actual Portuguese, because such a concept was nonsense.  You repeatedly failed to check the actual Portuguese, even though the issue was explained to you in simple English.  You were being unresponsive.

You have raised the concept in this thread that 1) the topic in not about drugged as per the thread title, but about sedation, and 2) that we should all accept your premise that we should only use Kate-speak and 3) that you know more about sedation than we do.  Without of course providing a shred of evidence.  Perhaps this is a surprise, but I am unresponsive.

Whilst I don't care as to whether the correct term is drugged, sedated or anaesthetised, it appears you do.  But will you actually check? It appears you are unresponsive.

With all his experience with unresponsive children it could be a case of "physician heal thyself"....

[Alice Purjorick]

40 yrs experience in sedation
I have explained that posters can take my word or not
I am obviously not prepared to reveal my true name there are simply too many nutters about
I have revealed my true name to one of the mods who can access my website if they wish

Your claim the non Portuguese speakers being asked to read statements in Portuguese is totally untrue
You seem more than a little confused
The posts are all ther so find one if you can
You will not be able
Try sticking to the truth

If you are going to criticise Kate you should be accurate
You are not

still no cite from you

That could be by being the storeman who dispenses the kit.

[stephen25000]

CITES are required as Brietta repeatedly points out.

Now, I have provided the actual instructions and recommendations from authorized sites.

From NICE again, 'The National Institute for Health and Care Excellence'.

https://www.nice.org.uk/guidance/CG112/chapter/1-Guidance#clinical-environment-and-monitoring

[Mr Gray]

That could be by being the storeman who dispenses the kit.

I've already said administering sedation
I'm giving my opinion based on that
If posters don't believe me that's fine
It's of no importance

[Brietta]

No more hearsay please davel.

Provide cites not opinions, because if you can't do that, and say what you post is based on experience, then anybody on here can do the same, with equal justification.

Please refrain from this line of posting.
You are asking a member to reveal his identity.

You have made claims on the forum regarding your professional status.  Unless you are willing to provide proof, please do not badger a fellow member to do so. 

It is up to the reader to decide if members have the expertise claimed.

[Alfie]

Which 'what happened' are you referring to - sedation or disappearance?  The two are not necessarily connected

Disappearance.