Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.

[slartibartfast]

So if she didn't try to wake them what conclusions do you think we should we draw from this?

She was trying not to wake them.

[slartibartfast]

If they had been roused then that would confirm they had not been sedated?  Where does that leave the theory that Madeleine, having been sedated, dragged a chair to the patio railings and fell off?

No idea, why?

[Alfie]

No idea, why?

I wasn't asking you.

[Alfie]

No vital signs were checked. If you fear sedation you try to rouse the person so you can check their level of responsiveness.

And so what conclusions should we draw about Kate McCann who feared sedation in her kids but who (allegedly) did nothing at all about it?

[G-Unit]

If they had been roused then that would confirm they had not been sedated?  Where does that leave the theory that Madeleine, having been sedated, dragged a chair to the patio railings and fell off?

If an attempt had been made to rouse them various responses were possible;

1. Stomach pain, nausea and vomiting
2. Sleepiness leading to unresponsiveness
3. Confusion and deliriousness
4. Excitable hyperactive behaviour
5. Sweating
6. Shaking hands
7. Hallucinations ‒ they may claim to 'hear voices' or 'see things'
8. Unusually slow or fast pulse
9. Unusually small or large pupils

The only symptom was sleepiness. The pulse wasn't checked, nor were the pupils. Kate says they were sound sleepers normally; she seems to have overlooked the fact that they allegedly woke and cried on the two previous nights. We don't know why, but it wouldn't have been because their room was searched, lights were turned on or people were screaming.

[slartibartfast]

I wasn't asking you.

So who were you asking? How are we supposed to know?

[slartibartfast]

And so what conclusions should we draw about Kate McCann who feared sedation in her kids but who (allegedly) did nothing at all about it?

Logically, she didn't fear it.

[Alfie]

So who were you asking? How are we supposed to know?

I was asking the person who wrote the post I responded to with the question.  I thought you would understand how forums work by now!

[Alfie]

If an attempt had been made to rouse them various responses were possible;

1. Stomach pain, nausea and vomiting
2. Sleepiness leading to unresponsiveness
3. Confusion and deliriousness
4. Excitable hyperactive behaviour
5. Sweating
6. Shaking hands
7. Hallucinations ‒ they may claim to 'hear voices' or 'see things'
8. Unusually slow or fast pulse
9. Unusually small or large pupils

The only symptom was sleepiness. The pulse wasn't checked, nor were the pupils. Kate says they were sound sleepers normally; she seems to have overlooked the fact that they allegedly woke and cried on the two previous nights. We don't know why, but it wouldn't have been because their room was searched, lights were turned on or people were screaming.

Can I ask how you know this for a fact?  I refer you to an earlier comment of mine that some people seem to believe that if it wasn't written down in a police statement or described in a book then it must not have happened.  Is that sound logic in your view?

[Alfie]

Logically, she didn't fear it.

She did fear it, she said so.  Are you calling her a liar?

[G-Unit]

And so what conclusions should we draw about Kate McCann who feared sedation in her kids but who (allegedly) did nothing at all about it?

You can conclude what you like. I wonder why she didn't investigate more fully if she truly feared her children could have been in danger of getting worse. It's not like she didn't know what she could do to make sure they were OK, is it?

[G-Unit]

Can I ask how you know this for a fact?  I refer you to an earlier comment of mine that some people seem to believe that if it wasn't written down in a police statement or described in a book then it must not have happened.  Is that sound logic in your view?

Why would people believe something was done if no-one said they did it? If the appropriate checks were carried out Kate wouldn't have needed to fear or speculate she would have known.

[Alfie]

You can conclude what you like. I wonder why she didn't investigate more fully if she truly feared her children could have been in danger of getting worse. It's not like she didn't know what she could do to make sure they were OK, is it?

You're assuming she did nothing to make sure they were OK - a big assumption.  But assuming you're right what do you conclude?

[Alfie]

Why would people believe something was done if no-one said they did it? If the appropriate checks were carried out Kate wouldn't have needed to fear or speculate she would have known.

Why would people believe nothing was done simply because it wasn't written about somewhere?

[Alfie]

You can conclude what you like. I wonder why she didn't investigate more fully if she truly feared her children could have been in danger of getting worse. It's not like she didn't know what she could do to make sure they were OK, is it?

When did Kate ever say she feared her children were "in danger of getting worse"?