Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.

[jassi]

They say they had their own tests done, but to be fair the PJ should have done it.  For how many drugs are they going to analyse for?

Have they ever disclosed the results? - I can't remember.

If you feed a suitably processed sample through a mass spectrometer, you can detect just about anything.
Forensic laboratories have such facilities, as will Leicester University Medical dept.

[G-Unit]

I'm sure they wanted it done, but it didn't happen.  It is the PJ's job to organise the tests not the McCanns.

It was the McCann's job to check if the children were responding, but they didn't do it. Control Risks arrived very quickly and they could have arranged it then had the parents wanted it done, rather than months later.

Perhaps you'd like to provide a cite showing that the PJ even knew, before accusing them of dereliction of duty?

[stephen25000]

For reference purposes.

Posters can look up the use of Gas-Chromatography and now normally, Time of Flight Mass Spectrometry in forensic analysis, including testing for drugs

The principles of which, and some of the applications of, are on G.C.S.E. and 'A' Level Chemistry courses (the latter in more detail). So it should not be beyond the pale of most posters or guests to understand the principles involved.

[G-Unit]

Have they ever disclosed the results? - I can't remember.

If you feed a suitably processed sample through a mass spectrometer, you can detect just about anything.
Forensic laboratories have such facilities.

Kate;

All the hair samples produced negative results. While this didn’t totally exclude the possibility that the children had been sedated, especially given the time that had elapsed, it meant nobody else (including the PJ and the media) could prove otherwise. [Madeleine]

Kate is saying that the children still may have been sedated, but no-one would be able to prove that they were. From wanting to confirm her belief that 'the kidnapper' drugged her twins she later seems pleased that sedation can't be proved.

Her priorities are very different at this stage, of course. Her aim is to defend herself against accusations that she may have done it.

[Lace]

Really ?

How would you know that ?

Surely, you would agree, in an unknown situation, with a child missing, and the other two children unresponsive, testing the other two children should have been of paramount importance.

Apparently one of the officers noticed that the twins didn't wake with all the noise going on,   how he knew this was not normal I don't know,  but if he thought it wasn't normal,  then why didn't he question it?   Why wasn't the bedding the twins were sleeping on and the clothes the twins were sleeping in tested for drugs?   They tested Madeleine's bed but not the twins cots.

[Lace]

Kate;

All the hair samples produced negative results. While this didn’t totally exclude the possibility that the children had been sedated, especially given the time that had elapsed, it meant nobody else (including the PJ and the media) could prove otherwise. [Madeleine]

Kate is saying that the children still may have been sedated, but no-one would be able to prove that they were. From wanting to confirm her belief that 'the kidnapper' drugged her twins she later seems pleased that sedation can't be proved.

Her priorities are very different at this stage, of course. Her aim is to defend herself against accusations that she may have done it.

Done what?

[jassi]

The sedation.

[Lace]

The sedation.

Calpol isn't a sedative,  so what do you think the McCann's may have given their children?

[jassi]

Calpol isn't a sedative,  so what do you think the McCann's may have given their children?

No idea what they may or may not have used.

[Alfie]

We'll never know because this doctor neglected to perform the most basic test on these supposedly drugged children. The test that the most basic first-aider would have performed first; waking them up.

Once again I ask you to provide a minute-by-minute account of Kate's actions that night with regard the twins.  Please tell us everything you know about what she did and did not do with regard to checking their responses, and other vital signs, with cites.  Thank you.

[faithlilly]

Once again I ask you to provide a minute-by-minute account of Kate's actions that night with regard the twins.  Please tell us everything you know about what she did and did not do with regard to checking their responses, and other vital signs, with cites.  Thank you.

Kate tells us she put her hands on the twins backs to feel for signs of life. Can you think of any reason she wouldn't have told us about the other steps she took?

[Alfie]

Kate tells us she put her hands on the twins backs to feel for signs of life. Can you think of any reason she wouldn't have told us about the other steps she took?

Brevity?  Do you seriously think that the book is a minute by minute account of all actions undertaken by Kate McCann that night?

[Alfie]

Fiona said Kate went in to check the twins. Fiona wasn't in the bedroom. She said it was weird, but was that in hindsight? They were fine is more hindsight, they were fine the day after.

No, it wasn't in hindsight: but at the time it did seem weird, I remember thinking, you know, when the Police came they turned the lights on, there was loads of noise, obviously from the moment Kate discovered that Madeleine was gone, the screaming and the shouting and there was a lot of noise and they, they didn't, you know, so much as blink'.
So Fiona Payne thought it was weird at the time but even as a qualified anesthetist did not apparently recognise the signs of an overdosed child nor recommend immediate medical attention, but you think she did nothing wrong? 

[G-Unit]

Calpol isn't a sedative,  so what do you think the McCann's may have given their children?

What do you think 'the kidnapper' gave their children?

[faithlilly]

Brevity?  Do you seriously think that the book is a minute by minute account of all actions undertaken by Kate McCann that night?

Brevity? There are pages and pages about how Kate was offended by not being offered a snack by the PJ or that the priest was slightly too upbeat yet for what should have been the meat of the book she chooses brevity. Really?

What I really don't get Alfie is that you are obviously an intelligent individual who must know your post above is hogwash. Why you chose  to open yourself up to the ridicule you obviously must know will follow heaven alone knows.