Author Topic: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.  (Read 215626 times)

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Offline G-Unit

If she didn't use that word then the twins should not be referred to as unresponsive

We'll never know because this doctor neglected to perform the most basic test on these supposedly drugged children. The test that the most basic first-aider would have performed first; waking them up.
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Offline Robittybob1

Cite the statement where Kate Mccann  stated she checked her children.

N.B. The book and and any subsequent comments made months later are irrelevant, and it cannot be independently verified, she did any such thing.
The PJ only took a short statement from Kate on the 4th, that hardly covered any detail.  The main statement she makes is in her book.
"Faced with this troubling situation, Kate checked that the twins were in their beds, unlike Madeleine, who had disappeared." Gerry McCann

"----- The deponent ran to the apartment accompanied by the rest of the group who, at the time, were seated at the table. When he arrived at the bedroom he first noticed that the door was completely open, the window was also open on one side, the external blinds almost fully raised, the curtains drawn back, MADELEINE'S bed was empty but the twins continued sleeping in their cribs. He clarifies that according to what KATE told him, that was the scene that she found when she entered the apartment."  Gerry McCann

"After the birth of the twins, Kate did not work for a year, on maternity leave, and currently works part-time as above.
--- When questioned, he states that none of his children takes any kind of medication regularly in England.
--- When they travelled on holiday to Portugal they brought several medicines, namely Calpol, Nurofen, for fevers and pains, both for adults and children, Losec for gastric problems that he occasionally suffers from, and an anti-histamine called Terfenadine for hay fever. He did not give any of these medicines or any others to the children while on holiday in Portugal."  Gerry McCann

--- When questioned if the twins woke while the apartment was being searched, he replies negatively. When they were taken to another apartment he does not know if they woke as he did not take them. When asked, he says that this was not normal, and can find no reason for it happening. He still thought at this moment that the twins might have been drugged by the possible abductor, even if he only mentioned this to the Police several days later. When questioned, he says he never gave his children anything to help them sleep, nor did Kate. When asked why he did not ask the twins what happened to their sister, he says that when the events took place they still did not speak fluently, which is now a normal developmental difficulty. At this point he did not ask them because he thought that they would not have the correct perception of what had happened, in addition to thinking that they would have been sleeping." Gerry McCann

". The twins were laid down on their backs, covered with open weave blankets. She says that she doesn't know if the children were in the same positions when they left the apartment."  Kate

Later on the kids are found sleeping on their stomachs.  This could be significant.
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stephen25000

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The book was written some time later after the event.

The children were not taken for examination.

She left the same two children after Madeleine was declared to have disappeared.

The CITES I gacve earlier, CLEARLY SHOW WHAT STEPS SHOULD BE TAKEN.

I have checked Kate Mccann's records as to her qualifications on the GMC database, which appear under her maiden name.  No specialty is indicated or given. FACT.

Offline Mr Gray

The book was written some time later after the event.

The children were not taken for examination.

She left the same two children after Madeleine was declared to have disappeared.

The CITES I gacve earlier, CLEARLY SHOW WHAT STEPS SHOULD BE TAKEN.

I have checked Kate Mccann's records as to her qualifications on the GMC database, which appear under her maiden name.  No specialty is indicated or given. FACT.

The cites you have are for an unresponsive child
Cite for the twins being unresponsive as opposed to being in a deep sleep

Offline Robittybob1

The book was written some time later after the event.

The children were not taken for examination.

She left the same two children after Madeleine was declared to have disappeared.

The CITES I gacve earlier, CLEARLY SHOW WHAT STEPS SHOULD BE TAKEN.

I have checked Kate Mccann's records as to her qualifications on the GMC database, which appear under her maiden name.  No specialty is indicated or given. FACT.
She put the twins down on their backs and later they are on their fronts.  Has someone repositioned the kids?  They were not unresponsive.  They just sleep better than expected.

The cites you have are for an unresponsive child
Cite for the twins being unresponsive as opposed to being in a deep sleep
I agree.
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stephen25000

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She put the twins down on their backs and later they are on their fronts.  Has someone repositioned the kids?  They were not unresponsive.  They just sleep better than expected.
I agree.

Are you a Doctor ?

Do you have any medical training ?

Did you even bother to read through the material ,I cited a short time ago ?



stephen25000

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As a reminder, we do not know the children were in a deep sleep.

That is supposition.

Offline Robittybob1

Are you a Doctor ?

Do you have any medical training ?

Did you even bother to read through the material ,I cited a short time ago ?
In a way.  I did not read it all but it was the right procedure if there was a real concern.
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Offline G-Unit

The PJ only took a short statement from Kate on the 4th, that hardly covered any detail.  The main statement she makes is in her book.
"Faced with this troubling situation, Kate checked that the twins were in their beds, unlike Madeleine, who had disappeared." Gerry McCann

"----- The deponent ran to the apartment accompanied by the rest of the group who, at the time, were seated at the table. When he arrived at the bedroom he first noticed that the door was completely open, the window was also open on one side, the external blinds almost fully raised, the curtains drawn back, MADELEINE'S bed was empty but the twins continued sleeping in their cribs. He clarifies that according to what KATE told him, that was the scene that she found when she entered the apartment."  Gerry McCann

"After the birth of the twins, Kate did not work for a year, on maternity leave, and currently works part-time as above.
--- When questioned, he states that none of his children takes any kind of medication regularly in England.
--- When they travelled on holiday to Portugal they brought several medicines, namely Calpol, Nurofen, for fevers and pains, both for adults and children, Losec for gastric problems that he occasionally suffers from, and an anti-histamine called Terfenadine for hay fever. He did not give any of these medicines or any others to the children while on holiday in Portugal."  Gerry McCann

--- When questioned if the twins woke while the apartment was being searched, he replies negatively. When they were taken to another apartment he does not know if they woke as he did not take them. When asked, he says that this was not normal, and can find no reason for it happening. He still thought at this moment that the twins might have been drugged by the possible abductor, even if he only mentioned this to the Police several days later. When questioned, he says he never gave his children anything to help them sleep, nor did Kate. When asked why he did not ask the twins what happened to their sister, he says that when the events took place they still did not speak fluently, which is now a normal developmental difficulty. At this point he did not ask them because he thought that they would not have the correct perception of what had happened, in addition to thinking that they would have been sleeping." Gerry McCann

". The twins were laid down on their backs, covered with open weave blankets. She says that she doesn't know if the children were in the same positions when they left the apartment."  Kate

Later on the kids are found sleeping on their stomachs.  This could be significant.

Fiona and David’s apartment and we carried a sleepy Sean and Amelie into their sitting room [Madeleine]

Who is we, Kate?

the parents removed the twins from the beds in which they were still sleeping and took them to the first floor flat.
 http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SILVIA_BATISTA.htm

Looks like Gerry has forgotten he carried a twin.

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stephen25000

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In a way.  I did not read it all but it was the right procedure if there was a real concern.

Incorrect.

The procedures outlined, clearly indicate the course of action.

Offline Robittybob1

As a reminder, we do not know the children were in a deep sleep.

That is supposition.
I said they slept better than expected.
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Offline Robittybob1

Fiona and David’s apartment and we carried a sleepy Sean and Amelie into their sitting room [Madeleine]

Who is we, Kate?

the parents removed the twins from the beds in which they were still sleeping and took them to the first floor flat.
 http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SILVIA_BATISTA.htm

Looks like Gerry has forgotten he carried a twin.
What believe Silvia?
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Offline slartibartfast

“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

stephen25000

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I said they slept better than expected.

Really ?

How would you know that ?

Surely, you would agree, in an unknown situation, with a child missing, and the other two children unresponsive, testing the other two children should have been of paramount importance.

Offline G-Unit

The cites you have are for an unresponsive child
Cite for the twins being unresponsive as opposed to being in a deep sleep

A sleep that seemed 'unnatural' to their mother, you mean? Why didn't she carry out the basic first step of rousing them? Why didn't she alert her friends that she feared the children had been drugged? Why did she treat it so casually despite saying she was checking for signs of life? A doctor checks patients for signs of life dispassionately. A mother checks her own child for signs of life desperately.
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