Author Topic: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.  (Read 215578 times)

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Offline Robittybob1

Perhaps, as the twins were awake, happy and healthy by the time she gave her statement she had put the idea out of her mind.
She had already contradicted Gerry by saying she had used the back sliding door rather than the locked one.  Gerry must have known he wasn't onto the truth when he said he used the key to get in.
What other pressure could Kate be under not to tell the whole story?  If by that stage she thought the kids had been drugged, did she think for a moment it could have been the kind actions of her husband or one of her friends?  We would not know what thoughts were rushing around in her brain.
And Matt seemed to know about the open sliding door without being told.
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It's the problem with many statements and releases months and years apart, human nature tends to modify the memory to paint themselves in the best possible light.
What are you talking about?

Offline G-Unit

None of the first statements are detailed.

Both parents managed to mention Madeleine's remark about the twins crying, so how could they forget to mention their suspicions about sedated twins? There's an obvious explanation for them failing to hear the children crying; they weren't there. There's no obvious explanation for the unresponsive twins, so it should have been seen as more important.
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Offline John

Was she a bit naive to think that Ricardo was a true friend and was going to keep the gossip confidential?
Little did he know that she had wanted these tests done from the very beginning.  Did he know or not?
Ricardo Paiva is thoroughly discussed in Kate's book when first introducing the PJ liaison officer.
"We also become quite friendly with Ricardo Paiva ...."

Liaison officers have a dual task Rob.  To offer support and act as a liaison with the investigating officers and also to gather information and evidence.  Anyone who thinks that they are only there to provide a shoulder to cry on are just a tad naive.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline John

If Kate McCann expressed a fear that all three of her children had been given an unknown substance by an 'abductor' please explain why no-one reacted.

If Kate McCann was afraid her two remaining children had been given an unknown substance please explain why she and her husband didn't react.

A good point, if I was suspicious that some stranger had doped my children i would be insisting that they be taken to hospital for checks immediately.
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A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline sadie

It's hardly a minor, inconsequential point that one omits from a sworn statement given to the people you are trying to convince of abduction.

The possibility of sedation appears to be in the public domain by the time of the T7 rogs.  Does anyone know the date and origin of this tale?
Their aim in the early stages would have been purely and simply to help the PJ find Madeleine.  They could not at that early stage, have realised that Amaral had dismissed the idea of an abduction and was merely trying to pin the blame on them

Offline ShiningInLuz

Their aim in the early stages would have been purely and simply to help the PJ find Madeleine.  They could not at that early stage, have realised that Amaral had dismissed the idea of an abduction and was merely trying to pin the blame on them
Pardon?

An abduction had been dismissed by 4 May 2007 when the T9 gave first statements?  Seriously?

When no possibility of sedation was mentioned in any statement?  Was that thought to help the PJ find Madeleine?

What was the deal with making Murat an arguido and convincing a judge that Malinka should be bugged and raided?

Murat arguido on the 15th when the second round of Tapas interviews were on the 10th?

Have I been reading the wrong case?
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Offline G-Unit

Liaison officers have a dual task Rob.  To offer support and act as a liaison with the investigating officers and also to gather information and evidence.  Anyone who thinks that they are only there to provide a shoulder to cry on are just a tad naive.

I have dealt with an FLO and they are very good at extracting information from the family. They are also very good at withholding information from the family. Their priority soon becomes clear.
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Liaison officers have a dual task Rob.  To offer support and act as a liaison with the investigating officers and also to gather information and evidence.  Anyone who thinks that they are only there to provide a shoulder to cry on are just a tad naive.
I guess if you are innocent and the FLO is outwardly sympathetic to your situation then I guess you could be forgiven for thinking that that he or she was there in a supporting role rather than trying to build a bogus case against you.

Offline sadie

Pardon?

An abduction had been dismissed by 4 May 2007 when the T9 gave first statements?  Seriously?

When no possibility of sedation was mentioned in any statement?  Was that thought to help the PJ find Madeleine?

What was the deal with making Murat an arguido and convincing a judge that Malinka should be bugged and raided?

Murat arguido on the 15th when the second round of Tapas interviews were on the 10th?

Have I been reading the wrong case?

According to Amaral, he had decided by the morning after Madeleine was taken that Madeleine was dead.

Seems Kate and Gerry were firmly in his sights already

Offline sadie

A good point, if I was suspicious that some stranger had doped my children i would be insisting that they be taken to hospital for checks immediately.
As Doctors they were well able to monitor the vital signs themselves and take action as and when necessary.  If necessary.

Offline G-Unit

As Doctors they were well able to monitor the vital signs themselves and take action as and when necessary.  If necessary.

'I think my kids have been sedated by an abductor! I don't know what might be in their system! Still, if I put my hand on their back now and again to see if they're still breathing that'll do.' said the highly trained doctor. 'Thank goodness she's no longer practising' say I because I'd want more if it was my child.
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Offline Robittybob1

As Doctors they were well able to monitor the vital signs themselves and take action as and when necessary.  If necessary.
But their first priority must have been to find Madeleine.  So when were they going to monitor their other kids?
They didn't have their doctor gear with them, and they had been drinking.  They might have some knowledge but they were out of their usual doctor role.
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Offline Robittybob1

'I think my kids have been sedated by an abductor! I don't know what might be in their system! Still, if I put my hand on their back now and again to see if they're still breathing that'll do.' said the highly trained doctor. 'Thank goodness she's no longer practising' say I because I'd want more if it was my child.
Silvia may not have passed on Kate's concerns and just said to her "they look alright to me".  What more could Kate do?
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Offline Robittybob1

A good point, if I was suspicious that some stranger had doped my children i would be insisting that they be taken to hospital for checks immediately.
She may have done this but were her concerns not acted upon.  She needed the cooperation of the interpreter and the PJ.
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