Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.

[faithlilly]

How many PJ officers were available overnight 3/4 May for the parents to voice their concerns to?

According to Kate at least one.

[Alfie]

According to Kate at least one.

So she brought it up with at least one member of the PJ, whose statement(s) contradict this?

[faithlilly]

So she brought it up with at least one member of the PJ, whose statement(s) contradict this?

I said at least one. Kate says in Madeleine that 'we' raised our concerns....' so who is the 'we' and surely if there was more than Kate raising concerns that would remain even firmly in the minds of observers?

[misty]

According to Kate at least one.

Do you have a link to a statement from a PJ officer in attendance that night, please (excluding the CSI)?

[Alfie]

I said at least one. Kate says in Madeleine that 'we' raised our concerns....' so who is the 'we' and surely if there was more than Kate raising concerns that would remain even firmly in the minds of observers?

I don't know but would hazard a guess at "we" being the two people who would be concerned about such an issue, ie herself and the children's father.

[faithlilly]

I don't know but would hazard a guess at "we" being the two people who would be concerned about such an issue, ie herself and the children's father.

Yet Gerry, none of their friends, no police officers or more importantly SB, who would have to have translated their concerns, mention this shocking lack of duty of care by the PJ. Sounds like another one of those improbable events to me Alfie.

[Alfie]

Yet Gerry, none of their friends, no police officers or more importantly SB, who would have to have translated their concerns, mention this shocking lack of duty of care by the PJ. Sounds like another one of those improbable events to me Alfie.

What is improbable is Kate writing complete lies in her book that would immediately raise question marks about her honesty and integrity with the the people who were there that night, including the police.

[ShiningInLuz]

What is improbable is Kate writing complete lies in her book that would immediately raise question marks about her honesty and integrity with the the people who were there that night, including the police.

Were they made arguidos?

[faithlilly]

What is improbable is Kate writing complete lies in her book that would immediately raise question marks about her honesty and integrity with the the people who were there that night, including the police.

She had already admitted in her book that she told lies when it was convenient so why would it surprise them?  Further at the time of her writing the book there was no active investigation taking place nor was there likely to be one on the strength of one lie so what censure did she have to fear?

[Alfie]

Were they made arguidos?

yes, and your point is?

[Alfie]

She had already admitted in her book that she told lies when it was convenient so why would it surprise them?  Further at the time of her writing the book there was no active investigation taking place nor was there likely to be one on the strength of one lie so what censure did she have to fear?

The fact that she admtted telling a (necessary )lie in her book about events in the summer of 2007 rather reinforces the truthfulness of her account does it not?  Why come clean about this so-called lie anyway, if her book is full of other supposed lies?   If her book was full of proveable lies that in itself might have been enough evidence to get the case re-opened, don't you think? A very risky game for her to have been playing

[ShiningInLuz]

yes, and your point is?

See your comment above.

You appear to be saying that the police did not question her honour or integrity at the time, but would do when they read her book.

Were they made arguidos?  Is that honour and integrity?

Happy New Year when it arrives!

[Alfie]

See your comment above.

You appear to be saying that the police did not question her honour or integrity at the time, but would do when they read her book.

Were they made arguidos?  Is that honour and integrity?

Happy New Year when it arrives!

No I think you have misunderstood.  The book was published well after their arguido status was lifted, telling lies in the book which could easily be exposed not just by the police but those they were with that night would be insanely risky, so why do it?

[G-Unit]

The question in the OP was "Does the forum think this is really practical?  What would be the point?", so I don't mind that we're discussing Kate McCann's ''fears that all three children could have been sedated'' and her failure to act upon her fears".

What I see is a bit of your own bias coming through for without any proof you are blaming Kate for failing to act on those fears.  Yet in her own book it has been reported she wanted and asked for the twins to be  tested.  So I tend to think it was someone else's failure.

She 'feared' and she did nothing. She says she told the GNR. They don't say she did and neither did the interpreter. Their EVIDENCE suggests she didn't tell them.

Her own and Fiona's EVIDENCE tell us that she neglected to attempt to rouse the twins, which is well known to be the first step if someone isn't responding to stimuli.

Please explain what's 'biased' about the above?

[Alfie]

She 'feared' and she did nothing. She says she told the GNR. They don't say she did and neither did the interpreter. Their EVIDENCE suggests she didn't tell them.

Her own and Fiona's EVIDENCE tell us that she neglected to attempt to rouse the twins, which is well known to be the first step if someone isn't responding to stimuli.

Please explain what's 'biased' about the above?

In her book Kate says that she and Fiona had both children on their laps and were hugging them, they were obviously being very closely monitored by two doctors, or are you claiming that this is a lie also?