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Offline jassi

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #150 on: December 30, 2016, 01:01:53 PM »
Can you prove what you are saying there?   I can't actually see where you get this from "It happened in 4G, according to Emma, where she left the McCanns at 4.30am. It was then that they all moved to 5H and put the still sleeping twins into cots. I expect Kate forgot the twins were moved twice; once to 4G and then to the Payne's after 4.30am". 
I appreciate it is a bit confusing but it is hard to imagine that someone like Kate could get confused with going up one floor or going across to a different apartment block and then upstairs to 4G.
Why isn't it just that Emma got confused about where she saw the twins on that night?

Quite.  I don't believe any of them have ever been in the least confused about the events of that night.
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
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Or maybe not -

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Offline Lace

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #151 on: December 30, 2016, 01:18:26 PM »
But Kate doesn't claim it was just her, she wrote 'we' alerted the police, so did the police ignore several obviously worried holidaymakers? Further several of the police officers included in their statements the odd, unresponsiveness of the twins so why wouldn't they take her seriously?

So if these officers portrayed what they had seen and heard from Kate,  it was Amaral who ignored her.   Even though he claims he knew the McCann's were guilty straight away!!   and then had the nerve to say they had drugged their children with Calpol!!  even though he didn't have them tested to prove it.

Alfie

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Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #152 on: December 30, 2016, 02:08:06 PM »
Quite.  I don't believe any of them have ever been in the least confused about the events of that night.
Upon what do you base this belief of yours?

Offline jassi

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #153 on: December 30, 2016, 02:31:28 PM »
Upon the belief that a group of professionals, ( 6 doctors and 1 lawyer) would not all have behaved in the manner that they have depicted.

Naturally, I wouldn't expect you to agree.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Alfie

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Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #154 on: December 30, 2016, 02:42:30 PM »
Upon the belief that a group of professionals, ( 6 doctors and 1 lawyer) would not all have behaved in the manner that they have depicted.

Naturally, I wouldn't expect you to agree.
Oh, so you think they are all simply pretending to have behaved in the manner they have depicted do you?

Offline jassi

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #155 on: December 30, 2016, 02:44:11 PM »
Oh, so you think they are all simply pretending to have behaved in the manner they have depicted do you?

You may think that, I couldn't possibly say  ?{)(**
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Alfie

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Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #156 on: December 30, 2016, 04:08:43 PM »
You may think that, I couldn't possibly say  ?{)(**
Well it seems to me you believe they are all in on some massive cover up and deception - there's a word for that.

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #157 on: December 30, 2016, 04:14:28 PM »
Well it seems to me you believe they are all in on some massive cover up and deception - there's a word for that.
Jassi has not said or implied "a massive cover up and deception".  Otherwise the post would have been deleted by now.
What's up, old man?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #158 on: December 30, 2016, 04:35:33 PM »
Jassi has not said or implied "a massive cover up and deception".  Otherwise the post would have been deleted by now.

Many posts here imply deception and a cover up
Amaral book which implies a massive cover up and deception has been widely quoted here

Offline faithlilly

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #159 on: December 30, 2016, 04:59:38 PM »
So, it's your contention is it that neither Kate nor Gerry were concerned about their "unresponsive" children?  And you have come to this conclusion because the next day, after their kids were awake and well, their concerns were not recorded in a statement by the police?

I absolutely think that Kate especially was concerned about the twins being unresponsive which rather begs why she wasn't more forceful about getting help?
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Alfie

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Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #160 on: December 30, 2016, 05:15:12 PM »
Jassi has not said or implied "a massive cover up and deception".  Otherwise the post would have been deleted by now.
I think you are wrong.  Jassi has made it clear that in her opinion doctors and lawyers would not behave in the manner they depicted.  It is very clear from this post that she believes that all members of the group acted confused, ie: put on an act.  When I asked her to verify this she gave the classic line from Yes Minister, and the implication from that is also clear.  You may not be very good at reading between lines but most of us are.  If the Tapas group were collectively putting on an act this implies collusion and deception. 

Alfie

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Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #161 on: December 30, 2016, 05:18:08 PM »
I absolutely think that Kate especially was concerned about the twins being unresponsive which rather begs why she wasn't more forceful about getting help?
I've already given my opinion about that.  You disregarded it.

Offline Lace

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #162 on: December 30, 2016, 06:09:55 PM »
In my opinion I don't think Kate was acting very rationally,   she was worried about the twins,  but distraught about the fact Madeleine was missing.   Fiona said 'they were fine'   so even though Fiona saw they weren't waking up and thought it odd with all the noise going on,  she didn't think it necessary either to plead for them to be taken to hospital.   Some children do sleep through a lot of noise if they are tired enough.   Then picking them up to move them to the Payne's I read that if when picking a child up you can tell whether the child is just sleeping heavily by the way it behaves,  if they shift into a sleeping position other than just hanging limp then they are just sleeping heavily.    Then come morning when they were awake and behaving normally,  Kate probably put it to the back of her mind to concentrate on Madeleine.

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Offline Eleanor

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #163 on: December 30, 2016, 06:24:38 PM »
In my opinion I don't think Kate was acting very rationally,   she was worried about the twins,  but distraught about the fact Madeleine was missing.   Fiona said 'they were fine'   so even though Fiona saw they weren't waking up and thought it odd with all the noise going on,  she didn't think it necessary either to plead for them to be taken to hospital.   Some children do sleep through a lot of noise if they are tired enough.   Then picking them up to move them to the Payne's I read that if when picking a child up you can tell whether the child is just sleeping heavily by the way it behaves,  if they shift into a sleeping position other than just hanging limp then they are just sleeping heavily.    Then come morning when they were awake and behaving normally,  Kate probably put it to the back of her mind to concentrate on Madeleine.

This sounds a perfectly reasonable explanation..

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #164 on: December 30, 2016, 06:37:23 PM »
This sounds a perfectly reasonable explanation..
Except for not explaining why she thought the behaviour was irrational.

Kate finds Madeleine's bed empty, she looks around the house and out the open window.
Goes back over to the Tapas and reports Madeleine taken.
They all go and double check (she allows that).
She allows them to call the police.
No one finds her and she gets distraught and cries.  Where is the irrational behaviour in that?
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