Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.

[Robittybob1]

I absolutely think that Kate especially was concerned about the twins being unresponsive which rather begs why she wasn't more forceful about getting help?

The word "unresponsive" to a person who is a trained anaesthetist would have a different meaning than you use here.  They would look into the pupils for responses to light and touch the eyelid margins for reflexes.
Only if these were all absent would I say they were "unresponsive". 
The twins were more in a deep sleep rather than unresponsive.  I don't think she (Kate) felt they were in any immediate  danger hence no need to get too distracted by the state of the twins.  She and someone else had expressed concern to the interpreter, and they expected her to pass on their concerns to the GNR. 
In their statements the GNR officers are aware the twins are sleeping very soundly and one even thought that to be very unusual.  So Silvia seems to have at least transmitted some of the observation by Kate to the GNR officers, but they take it no further, but Kate had at least tried.  So what Kate has written in her book once again appears factual.

[faithlilly]

I've already given my opinion about that.  You disregarded it.

Only because I thought it had no merit.

[Robittybob1]

Only because I thought it had no merit.

Alfie is pretty close to being on target IMO.

[ShiningInLuz]

Many posts here imply deception and a cover up
Amaral book which implies a massive cover up and deception has been widely quoted here

Amaral's book does not imply a "massive cover up".  If you want to continue down the "massive cover up and deception" route, provide a cite or two.

Start with "massive" please, because I'm not a fan of massive conspiracies, aka "massive cover ups".

[ShiningInLuz]

I think you are wrong.  Jassi has made it clear that in her opinion doctors and lawyers would not behave in the manner they depicted.  It is very clear from this post that she believes that all members of the group acted confused, ie: put on an act.  When I asked her to verify this she gave the classic line from Yes Minister, and the implication from that is also clear.  You may not be very good at reading between lines but most of us are.  If the Tapas group were collectively putting on an act this implies collusion and deception.

I believe I can read between the lines as well as most.

Please feel free to think what you think because I am not connected to the Thought Police.

Jassi's post was, IMO, within forum guidelines.  Perhaps another mod will think differently and act accordingly.

[jassi]

Perhaps it would have been far better if they had been.

Obviously they would have walked away squeaky clean and could then have got on with their searching without having to pay for expensive lawyers & PR people.

As it is, it looks like they have a life sentence of  public suspicion.

[Alfie]

Only because I thought it had no merit.

would you be able to explain why not?

[faithlilly]

would you be able to explain why not?

It's those improbable events Alfie 

[Alfie]

It's those improbable events Alfie 

Can you please explaine what was improbable about my  post?  I await your answer with interest.

[Alfie]

It's those improbable events Alfie 

Here you go - my post, please point out which bits you consider "improbable events"?

As far as I see it - she was concerned that night (but not fearful of the twins imminent death), but had more pressing worries in the disappearance of her eldest child, and her concerns for the twins took a back seat to the other major issue by morning when they were fully conscious and behaving normally.

[ShiningInLuz]

I've no idea what happened to the statements of the UK liaison officers, or whether I'm looking in the wrong place, but one of the liaison officers said the McCanns enquired of him whether there was any evidence sedatives had been used in the abduction.

I believe this has been discussed on the forum before, and I believe the liaison officer route came under scrutiny as to whether it was an attempt to provide information to the PJ or to obtain information from the PJ.  I cannot remember if a date was mentioned in respect of this.  Presumably there were no liaison officers in Luz on 4 May, and I would guess there were by 10 May.

It's still an odd route to take.  Enquire of the liaison officers, but don't tell the PJ clearly and directly.

[ferryman]

I believe this has been discussed on the forum before, and I believe the liaison officer route came under scrutiny as to whether it was an attempt to provide information to the PJ or to obtain information from the PJ.  I cannot remember if a date was mentioned in respect of this.  Presumably there were no liaison officers in Luz on 4 May, and I would guess there were by 10 May.

It's still an odd route to take.  Enquire of the liaison officers, but don't tell the PJ clearly and directly.

What happened to the statements of the liaison officers?

This is now what appears under the heading: liaison officers:

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RESPONSE-ROGATORY.htm#rr20

[misty]

What happened to the statements of the liaison officers?

This is now what appears under the heading: liaison officers:

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RESPONSE-ROGATORY.htm#rr20

LOL - that shows what happened when the PJ files site collapsed a few months back!

Here's a link to the statement you are looking for:_

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/STEPHEN_MARKLEY.htm

05-Cartas Rogatorias Vol V Pages 9 - 10
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 Statement by: Stephen Markley

Occupation: Police Officer

This statement (composed of 2 pages and signed by me) is true and in accordance with my understanding.

Date: 25th April 2008
I am police officer Markley of the Leicestershire Police currently working in the criminal unit.

In 2007 and in relation to the Portuguese investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, I was detached to Portugal in the role of family communication officer.

According to the Portuguese PJ Letter of Request, I was asked to respond to the following question:

Was there anything done or said by Kate or Gerry McCann in your presence or during your various meetings that could raise any suspicion that they had any knowledge about what could have happened to Madeleine, beyond the circumstances described to the Portuguese investigators?

My reply to the question was: No.

However, in relation to the above, I would like to add the following: At about 20.00 on Saturday 5th May 2007, I arrived at the apartment where Kate and Gerry were staying, with other officers. During the meeting Gerald and Kate had a number of questions to which they wanted follow up and responses from the PJ.

One of these questions was that they wanted the PJ to be aware of was Madeleine's revelation about Wednesday night, when she said that she was left alone during the night. She told Kate and Gerry that she remembered the twins crying and that she wanted to know why neither her mother nor her father had gone to the room to see what was happening.

They also wanted to know whether the PJ had any evidence that would suggest that the person who took Madeleine had used any substance to facilitate the abduction.

[ferryman]

Where would we be without you, Misty?  I wasn't aware that the site had collapsed a few months ago.

Thank you very much.

LOL - that shows what happened when the PJ files site collapsed a few months back!

Here's a link to the statement you are looking for:_

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/STEPHEN_MARKLEY.htm

05-Cartas Rogatorias Vol V Pages 9 - 10
cr5_9
 
cr5_10
 Statement by: Stephen Markley

Occupation: Police Officer

This statement (composed of 2 pages and signed by me) is true and in accordance with my understanding.

Date: 25th April 2008
I am police officer Markley of the Leicestershire Police currently working in the criminal unit.

In 2007 and in relation to the Portuguese investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, I was detached to Portugal in the role of family communication officer.

According to the Portuguese PJ Letter of Request, I was asked to respond to the following question:

Was there anything done or said by Kate or Gerry McCann in your presence or during your various meetings that could raise any suspicion that they had any knowledge about what could have happened to Madeleine, beyond the circumstances described to the Portuguese investigators?

My reply to the question was: No.

However, in relation to the above, I would like to add the following: At about 20.00 on Saturday 5th May 2007, I arrived at the apartment where Kate and Gerry were staying, with other officers. During the meeting Gerald and Kate had a number of questions to which they wanted follow up and responses from the PJ.

One of these questions was that they wanted the PJ to be aware of was Madeleine's revelation about Wednesday night, when she said that she was left alone during the night. She told Kate and Gerry that she remembered the twins crying and that she wanted to know why neither her mother nor her father had gone to the room to see what was happening.

They also wanted to know whether the PJ had any evidence that would suggest that the person who took Madeleine had used any substance to facilitate the abduction.

[Robittybob1]

LOL - that shows what happened when the PJ files site collapsed a few months back!

Here's a link to the statement you are looking for:_

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/STEPHEN_MARKLEY.htm

05-Cartas Rogatorias Vol V Pages 9 - 10
cr5_9
 
cr5_10
 Statement by: Stephen Markley

Occupation: Police Officer

This statement (composed of 2 pages and signed by me) is true and in accordance with my understanding.

Date: 25th April 2008
I am police officer Markley of the Leicestershire Police currently working in the criminal unit.

In 2007 and in relation to the Portuguese investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, I was detached to Portugal in the role of family communication officer.

According to the Portuguese PJ Letter of Request, I was asked to respond to the following question:

Was there anything done or said by Kate or Gerry McCann in your presence or during your various meetings that could raise any suspicion that they had any knowledge about what could have happened to Madeleine, beyond the circumstances described to the Portuguese investigators?

My reply to the question was: No.

However, in relation to the above, I would like to add the following: At about 20.00 on Saturday 5th May 2007, I arrived at the apartment where Kate and Gerry were staying, with other officers. During the meeting Gerald and Kate had a number of questions to which they wanted follow up and responses from the PJ.

One of these questions was that they wanted the PJ to be aware of was Madeleine's revelation about Wednesday night, when she said that she was left alone during the night. She told Kate and Gerry that she remembered the twins crying and that she wanted to know why neither her mother nor her father had gone to the room to see what was happening.

They also wanted to know whether the PJ had any evidence that would suggest that the person who took Madeleine had used any substance to facilitate the abduction.

Well you can't get it much clearer than that. Just 2 days after Kate is wanting the PJ to investigate  whether any substances were used.  OK she doesn't say check the twins but you can just about be clear that was the reason for her concern.  That concern would have been made know sooner that the statement was written on the 25th 04  2008, I  really hope so.