Author Topic: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.  (Read 248846 times)

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Alfie

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And you don't think she'd have mentioned it in her book, as would have FP, who did record Kate's actions, if it actually happened?
In your opinion does Kate's book contain an accurate record of every action, thought and deed that took place that night?

Offline ShiningInLuz

Simple question.

Maybe someone on here knows what level of discussion took place on the internet about the twins deep sleep, between Madeleine's disappearance and the release of Kate's book ?
I think if we established when the idea of sedation first surfaced on the Internet we might be a step forward on this. 

Somewhere on the forum someone had posted that Kate's father said they had given Madeleine Calpol when she was younger, to help her sleep.  Presumably, he did not simply utter this in some voluntary offering, but was responding to what was already circulating.

The only date I am certain of is that it was in Amaral's book when that was released.  Presumably Kate's father's statement predates that.  Once the book had been translated from Portuguese, there would have been the obvious opportunity of discussion starting on various forums.

I did not follow the case back in those days, so the actual track record is beyond me.

Suffice it to say the issue was important enough for Kate to cover it off in her book.  As to whether this issue had been raised with her previously, perhaps in an interview or perhaps with one of her friends discussing it with her, that is something I do not know.  I can see so many alternative routes for this that hours could be wasted trying to document them all.
What's up, old man?

Offline sadie

Did Kate mention even taking the twin's pulse ?

Of course she did.  Second nature to a doctor

15 hours of questioning ... but how many minutes of statements? 

Many more things left out than put into the statements.

Who decided what to leave in and what to leave ouit?

Offline G-Unit

Are you claiming that Kate didn't have a watch, then ?

If she checked their breathing she would have checked the rate too.  Part of checking the breathing is checking the rate.  Do you think Kate is an idiot or something ?

I am comparing what Kate McCann said she did with what is recommended for cases of suspected sedation. You are assuming she did more than she said, bur you can't support your assumption with evidence because there is none.
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Offline faithlilly

Therefore the woman is a monster prepared to let her children die.  Is that the conclusion we must draw from your repeated harping on the issue?

Your words not mine.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

In your opinion does Kate's book contain an accurate record of every action, thought and deed that took place that night?

No but they combined states of those who were there on the night is.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline ShiningInLuz

Of course she did.  Second nature to a doctor

15 hours of questioning ... but how many minutes of statements? 

Many more things left out than put into the statements.

Who decided what to leave in and what to leave ouit?
The person signing the statement is responsible for it's accuracy.  Therefore if anything significant was left out, it is their call.
What's up, old man?

Alfie

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Your words not mine.
What other conclusion could you possibly be inviting us to draw with your repeated harpings on and how does this all fit in with your previous contention that the McCanns were good and caring parents?
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ferryman

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I think if we established when the idea of sedation first surfaced on the Internet we might be a step forward on this. 

Somewhere on the forum someone had posted that Kate's father said they had given Madeleine Calpol when she was younger, to help her sleep.  Presumably, he did not simply utter this in some voluntary offering, but was responding to what was already circulating.

The only date I am certain of is that it was in Amaral's book when that was released.  Presumably Kate's father's statement predates that.  Once the book had been translated from Portuguese, there would have been the obvious opportunity of discussion starting on various forums.

I did not follow the case back in those days, so the actual track record is beyond me.

Suffice it to say the issue was important enough for Kate to cover it off in her book.  As to whether this issue had been raised with her previously, perhaps in an interview or perhaps with one of her friends discussing it with her, that is something I do not know.  I can see so many alternative routes for this that hours could be wasted trying to document them all.

To be absolutely accurate, the words to help her sleep were added in parenthesis by the reporter in a quote attributed by the reporter to Mr Healy. 

I think it entirely fair to surmise that Mr Healy merely confirmed what Kate and Gerry had, themselves, already acknowledged, that they occasionally used calpol with the children.

Alfie

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No but they combined states of those who were there on the night is.
Is it really?  So when Kate and Fiona were holding the kids that night what did they say to each other?

Offline sadie

Perhaps it would a good idea Sadie if you read up on the appropriate procedure in such circumstances.
stephen, I was around in the days when doctors only had stethescopes ... and they rarely used them.

From time immemorial doctors have been able to check the vital signs.  The fancy equipment makes the readings more accurate.  That is all

Offline sadie

I am comparing what Kate McCann said she did with what is recommended for cases of suspected sedation. You are assuming she did more than she said, bur you can't support your assumption with evidence because there is none.

She checked the breathing .  Part of checking the breathing is noting the rate.

stephen25000

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stephen, I was around in the days when doctors only had stethescopes ... and they rarely used them.

From time immemorial doctors have been able to check the vital signs.  The fancy equipment makes the readings more accurate.  That is all

Sadie, placing your fingers on someone's body, does not tell even a Doctor, if they have drugs or anaesthetics in their bloodstream.

Offline John

A lot of posts have been removed recently as they were completely off topic.  It is not something we like to do so please ensure your posts are at least in part relative to the topic being debated.  TY

And a Happy New Year to everyone!   8((()*/
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline G-Unit

Of course she did.  Second nature to a doctor

15 hours of questioning ... but how many minutes of statements? 

Many more things left out than put into the statements.

Who decided what to leave in and what to leave ouit?

You seriously believe that 'feeling their backs' is the same as 'checking their vital signs'? You seriously believe she wouldn't have used the correct terminology in her book? You seriously think she wouldn't have told anyone if she gave the police that important information and it didn't appear in her statements?

It doesn't matter if you do believe all that anyway, because you have no evidence whatsoever to support your beliefs.
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