Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.

[G-Unit]

Do you think that the FLO have no brains at all?

I have no idea what the purpose of your question is. The FLO's were asked if the PJ had any evidence to suggest Madeleine had been sedated. If they asked the PJ that question the answer would have been 'No', because they didn't. End of subject.

[Mr Gray]

Two GNR officers attended. The deeply sleeping twins were not mentioned in their first statements on 7th May or their second statements on 16th May. They were only mentioned in their third statements made on 17th October. That's after sedation was speculated about in the media.

So they noticed the twins deep sleep, but saw no reason to report it. They remembered it in October after being asked.

No record in the statement but of course we have no idea what conserns the McCanns mentioned
The statements are very short summaries of what the McCanns said

[G-Unit]

No record in the statement but of course we have no idea what conserns the McCanns mentioned
The statements are very short summaries of what the McCanns said

Kate McCann told us in her book that she feared her children had been sedated. She says she reported those fears to the GNR. They didn't report that in their statements. The interpreter didn't report it in her statements. The McCanns didn't mention it in any statements. They mentioned only Madeleine to the UK FLO's. There's no evidence of any meaningful monitoring of the children by the parents. Those are the facts, all else is opinion.

[Mr Gray]

Kate McCann told us in her book that she feared her children had been sedated. She says she reported those fears to the GNR. They didn't report that in their statements. The interpreter didn't report it in her statements. The McCanns didn't mention it in any statements. They mentioned only Madeleine to the UK FLO's. There's no evidence of any meaningful monitoring of the children by the parents. Those are the facts, all else is opinion.

Just as saying she didn't mention it is opinion

[ShiningInLuz]

No record in the statement but of course we have no idea what conserns the McCanns mentioned
The statements are very short summaries of what the McCanns said

What we know is that the McCanns and others who interacted with the twins that night, had multiple opportunities to ensure any concerns were recorded, and none did.

[G-Unit]

Just as saying she didn't mention it is opinion

The evidence available suggests she didn't. If she did then three witnesses didn't report it. I can think of no reason why not.

[Mr Gray]

Kate has voiced concerns that the twins were sedated
Which does not require any medical intervention
Not that they were oversedated

[Alfie]

Two GNR officers attended. The deeply sleeping twins were not mentioned in their first statements on 7th May or their second statements on 16th May. They were only mentioned in their third statements made on 17th October. That's after sedation was speculated about in the media.

So they noticed the twins deep sleep, but saw no reason to report it. They remembered it in October after being asked.

Oh right, so their statements are not to be trusted either as they were obviously biased by media reporting.

[faithlilly]

No, I stand by every word I have written, but remember it was written with the proviso that it was my opinion only, and not necessarily what actually happened or what Kate said happened.  We know that in your opinion Kate is an evil monster for not taking the twins to the hospital that night, what more can be said or done to dissuade you of this notion?  Nothing, so why should I bother repeating my views about it?

I certainly don't think Kate is a monster. I think she is a pragmatist.

Can you tell me why it would be more acceptable for Kate not to have the twins medically checked if she suspected that they were unresponsive due to gas rather than some other sedative?

[faithlilly]

This is the pertinent part of your post:

'In my opinion (conjecture here, remember I am not the McCanns so this could be completely wrong, and don't start ascribing my thoughts to them) the McCanns may have thought that their children had been gassed as stories of holiday makers being gassed and robbed on the continent have been doing the rounds for many years. '
So please tell me what I have got wrong?

[Alfie]

This is the pertinent part of your post:

'In my opinion (conjecture here, remember I am not the McCanns so this could be completely wrong, and don't start ascribing my thoughts to them) the McCanns may have thought that their children had been gassed as stories of holiday makers being gassed and robbed on the continent have been doing the rounds for many years. '
So please tell me what I have got wrong?

You seem to be under the impression that I wrote this as a reason why Kate did not take the twins to the hospital, am I correct in thinking that is your belief?

[faithlilly]

You seem to be under the impression that I wrote this as a reason why Kate did not take the twins to the hospital, am I correct in thinking that is your belief?

No you said you believe Kate may have believed the twins had been gassed. I asked why not seeking medical advice if they had been gassed is any more acceptable than if they had been sedated in any other way?

[Alfie]

I don't think you'll ever get a straight answer to that. It's just one of those strange and weird things.

Was my answer not straight enough for you?  Or did you consider it bent, strange and weird, and if so why exactly?

[Alfie]

No you said you believe Kate may have believed the twins had been gassed. I asked why not seeking medical advice if they had been gassed is any more acceptable than if they had been sedated in any other way?

For some reason my reply to your question was removed - I have no idea why.  To repeat - I have made no judgement regarding whether it is any more or less acceptable, so you are seeing things that simply aren't there.

[stephen25000]

Kate has voiced concerns that the twins were sedated
Which does not require any medical intervention
Not that they were oversedated

In the book she mentioned it, and the book was written after the event, so irrelevant.

At the time there was no record of any attempt by the Mccanns, their associates or the Police to have the other two children examined.

That is the fact of the matter.

It didn't need to be done immediately. It could have been a few days later.

The Mccann's as Doctors, have no excuse for not ensuring this was done.

So the question remains, WHY DIDN'T THEY  ?