Author Topic: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.  (Read 249200 times)

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Offline misty

In the book she mentioned it, and the book was written after the event, so irrelevant.

At the time there was no record of any attempt by the Mccanns, their associates or the Police to have the other two children examined.

That is the fact of the matter.

It didn't need to be done immediately. It could have been a few days later.

The Mccann's as Doctors, have no excuse for not ensuring this was done.

So the question remains, WHY DIDN'T THEY  ?

Probably because on 4/5/2007 the CSI team had found no trace of any substance indicating Madeleine had been sedated. by which time the twins were apparently OK.

stephen25000

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Probably because on 4/5/2007 the CSI team had found no trace of any substance indicating Madeleine had been sedated. by which time the twins were apparently OK.

So they tested blood and tissue samples of madeleine's siblings ?

As I said, there was no excuse for either of the Mccann's or the Police not having tests done.

You never know, it might have helped solve the case. 8)-)))

Offline faithlilly

For some reason my reply to your question was removed - I have no idea why.  To repeat - I have made no judgement regarding whether it is any more or less acceptable, so you are seeing things that simply aren't there.

Then perhaps you can tell me how lYO the twins were gassed in the couple of minutes between Gerry leaving the apartment and the appearance of Tannerman?
« Last Edit: January 03, 2017, 10:15:38 PM by ShiningInLuz »
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline misty

So they tested blood and tissue samples of madeleine's siblings ?

As I said, there was no excuse for either of the Mccann's or the Police not having tests done.

You never know, it might have helped solve the case. 8)-)))

It may have helped solve the case but the absence of anything untoward in the twins blood/tissue may have offered further proof to the investigating team that there was no abduction. It's a catch 22 situation.

Alfie

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Then perhaps you can tell me how lYO the twins were gassed in the couple of minutes between Gerry leaving the apartment and the appearance of Tannerman?
Once again I am going to have to direct you to my original post on this matter. You seem to be having real comprehension issues today!

Offline faithlilly

Once again I am going to have to direct you to my original post on this matter. You seem to be having real comprehension issues today!

Nope again that doesn't answer my question. Perhaps you are afraid to acknowledge that it would be impossible for a room that size to have been filled with enough gas to sedate three children in the space of three or four minutes. Kate was an intelligent women and even in her panicked state she would have known that. I'm actually surprised that you are putting such a ridiculous scenario forward if I'm honest.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Alfie

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Nope again that doesn't answer my question. Perhaps you are afraid to acknowledge that it would be impossible for a room that size to have been filled with enough gas to sedate three children in the space of three or four minutes. Kate was an intelligent women and even in her panicked state she would have known that. I'm actually surprised that you are putting such a ridiculous scenario forward if I'm honest.
It's obvious you either didn't read my original post properly of are having a senior moment.  I'd suggest before you make an even bigger fool of yourself you go back and read it very carefully.

Offline Alice Purjorick

I certainly don't think Kate is a monster. I think she is a pragmatist.

Can you tell me why it would be more acceptable for Kate not to have the twins medically checked if she suspected that they were unresponsive due to gas rather than some other sedative?

Were it a gas it would have been a gas with very interesting properties.
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Offline G-Unit

Kate has voiced concerns that the twins were sedated
Which does not require any medical intervention
Not that they were oversedated

Rubbish. Children's sedation for medical reasons is very carefully organised to strict guidelines. Continuous monitoring is carried out. That's done when the type of sedation is known and is administered by experts.

In this case the substance and dose was unknown, so it was impossible to judge if they would be ok or not.

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Alfie

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Rubbish. Children's sedation for medical reasons is very carefully organised to strict guidelines. Continuous monitoring is carried out. That's done when the type of sedation is known and is administered by experts.

In this case the substance and dose was unknown, so it was impossible to judge if they would be ok or not.
Kate and Fiona judge from monitoring and checking the twins that their lives were not in danger.  The twins were absolutely fine the next day.  Their judgement was correct. 

ferryman

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Kate and Fiona judge from monitoring and checking the twins that their lives were not in danger.  The twins were absolutely fine the next day.  Their judgement was correct.

Yep!

Offline Brietta

Rubbish. Children's sedation for medical reasons is very carefully organised to strict guidelines. Continuous monitoring is carried out. That's done when the type of sedation is known and is administered by experts.

In this case the substance and dose was unknown, so it was impossible to judge if they would be ok or not.

What substance?

What dosage?

There is nothing to indicate or suggest either child was drugged.

Had there been any suggestion that the children had been subject to invasive procedure of any kind, the responsibility for organising checking that independently, without doubt, lay with the highly experienced and qualified investigative PJ team.

Perhaps a diligence they either overlooked or perhaps judged unnecessary since they were certainly aware that the twins were sleeping soundly, and were also aware that they were being constantly monitored by doctors.   
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Alice Purjorick

Nope again that doesn't answer my question. Perhaps you are afraid to acknowledge that it would be impossible for a room that size to have been filled with enough gas to sedate three children in the space of three or four minutes. Kate was an intelligent women and even in her panicked state she would have known that. I'm actually surprised that you are putting such a ridiculous scenario forward if I'm honest.

At least we now know what the myriad of blokes were doing who were thought to be casing the joint:
working out where to stand the crane to swing in a cylinder pack [or cryo mini tank maybe if they used an inert]. I am surprised no one saw them piping it all up or in the case of a cryo minitank gassing off and laying a fog.
They sure stripped it all out quick too as no one noticed it and it's all bump into kit rather than trip over.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Alfie

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Alice and Fathlilly I wish you'd both grow up and learn to read and comprehend my posts properly rather than deliberately misunderstanding them for the lols.

Offline faithlilly

Alice and Fathlilly I wish you'd both grow up and learn to read and comprehend my posts properly rather than deliberately misunderstanding them for the lols.

So correct me if I'm wrong. Did you not speculate in your post that Kate may have thought that the twins had been gassed?

From your post:

'The McCanns may have thought that their children had been gassed'

And this

' So it is possible that this was a thought going through Kate's panicked mind at the time.'


« Last Edit: January 04, 2017, 12:47:51 AM by Faithlilly »
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?