Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.

[Alfie]

I used to give ga with a McKesson machine using nitrous oxide and fluothane as an adjunct
Adults got Brietal
Later due to regs stuck to sedation
RA machine simply n2o and O2
Start 80/20 then reduce O2 until sedation achieved
Judged by experience
Adults Valium then vasimuls and now midazolam with venflon blue 
Start 2 mg then increase max 10
We just used to pop 10 in for everyone

Yes it was easy for me to rattle it off

Davel, if you wanted to sedate your children whilst on holiday (if you were really that evil) what would you use and how easy would it be to a) get hold of the stuff and b) adminster it to the child?

[Mr Gray]

Davel, if you wanted to sedate your children whilst on holiday (if you were really that evil) what would you use and how easy would it be to a) get hold of the stuff and b) adminster it to the child?

In the case of proper sedation children are actually harder to sedate than adults
Elderly people being the easiest
I've given 10 mgs of Valium IV to a 12 yr old and they've sat up a got out of the chair
Choral Hydrate would be a good choice to induce a deep sleep and although it's prescription  only in the uk it may be easier to get hold of with the more relaxed rules on the continent
Would be given in a drink and take about 30 mins to work
I don't think the twins were sedated
As a father of 7  with many holidays such as this I've seen children that are totally impossible to wake after a long long tiring day
Kate may have been a doctor but did not have that much experience taking young children on holiday and seeing just how tired they can get

[ShiningInLuz]

Good people of the forum, I asked for general evidence of experience of sedation and it has been provided.

Anyone using this to try to track down and expose a forum member's identity will get sin bin points straight away.

The only note I will make about the post is that it is a ton of kit, a lot of chemicals, and a lot of expertise.  IMO.  Quite why it is related to drugged, anaesthetised or sedated by anyone is beyond me.

However, the bottom line is Davel has explained his experience.  Please let it rest there.

[Mr Gray]

Good people of the forum, I asked for general evidence of experience of sedation and it has been provided.

Anyone using this to try to track down and expose a forum member's identity will get sin bin points straight away.

The only note I will make about the post is that it is a ton of kit, a lot of chemicals, and a lot of expertise.  IMO.  Quite why it is related to drugged, anaesthetised or sedated by anyone is beyond me.

However, the bottom line is Davel has explained his experience.  Please let it rest there.

The post was in answer to a specific question

[jassi]

Imagine if the same drug is used in other abduction cases?  A clue that there is a serial abductor??

We have no sign of a single abductor, let alone a serial one. Can you provide details of a series of unsolved abductions?

[Robittybob1]

So Rob, when was this proved to be an abduction ?

CITE.

The point I'm making is I think the PJ should have considered could this case be part of a bigger picture.  The latest press release was that SY was thinking MM missing was the work of a kidnapping ring.  In which case similar methods may have been used repeatedly.
"Imagine if the same drug is used in other abduction cases?  A clue that there is a serial abductor??"  Exactly as what the SY are doing but they would have been assisted if there had been drug tests performed on the kids at the beginning.

We have no sign of a single abductor, let alone a serial one. Can you provide details of a series of unsolved abductions?

I can't provide any details other than what SY has revealed to the media.

[stephen25000]

The point I'm making is I think the PJ should have considered could this case be part of a bigger picture.  The latest press release was that SY was thinking MM missing was the work of a kidnapping ring.  In which case similar methods may have been used repeatedly.
"Imagine if the same drug is used in other abduction cases?  A clue that there is a serial abductor??"  Exactly as what the SY are doing but they would have been assisted if there had been drug tests performed on the kids at the beginning. I can't provide any details other than what SY has revealed to the media.

What details would that be ?

Let's have  a CITED source from SY, proving an abduction.

An opinion of course, doesn't count.

[jassi]

The point I'm making is I think the PJ should have considered could this case be part of a bigger picture.  The latest press release was that SY was thinking MM missing was the work of a kidnapping ring.  In which case similar methods may have been used repeatedly.
"Imagine if the same drug is used in other abduction cases?  A clue that there is a serial abductor??"  Exactly as what the SY are doing but they would have been assisted if there had been drug tests performed on the kids at the beginning. I can't provide any details other than what SY has revealed to the media.

Which is tiddly squat. SY have publicly  linked nothing else to this case, only lots of leads leading, well, nowhere.

[Robittybob1]

Which is tiddly squat. SY have publicly  linked nothing else to this case, only lots of leads leading, well, nowhere.

Remember this headline (just last month) "MADELEINE MCCANN

Madeleine McCann: 'Important' new lead points to trafficking gang" http://www.theweek.co.uk/madeleine-mccann/53972/madeleine-mccann-important-new-lead-points-to-trafficking-gang 

[jassi]

Yeah, but none of it came from OG, I fancy.  Staff-wise, they are down to one man and his dog, so not likely to be doing much investigation.

[stephen25000]

Remember this headline (just last month) "MADELEINE MCCANN

Madeleine McCann: 'Important' new lead points to trafficking gang" http://www.theweek.co.uk/madeleine-mccann/53972/madeleine-mccann-important-new-lead-points-to-trafficking-gang

So who is the source ?

[Robittybob1]

So who is the source ?

SY are rather secretive in that respect.

[stephen25000]

SY are rather secretive in that respect.

i.e. No source from SY.

[Robittybob1]

i.e. No source from SY.

Can you read?  I've given you the link.

[stephen25000]

Can you read?  I've given you the link.

There is no source from SY  Rob.