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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Former McCann PI "Who is protecting Maddie's kidnapper?"
« Reply #300 on: April 12, 2017, 10:32:48 AM »
So where does ''hellish lair'' fit in with your thinking ?

Worse than a 'lawless village' ?
Poor Madeleine.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Former McCann PI "Who is protecting Maddie's kidnapper?"
« Reply #301 on: April 12, 2017, 10:33:06 AM »
So where does ''hellish lair'' fit in with your thinking ?

Worse than a 'lawless village' ?

It's the change of words that interests me
Some will understand it's significance to the jemmied shutters

Offline faithlilly

Re: Former McCann PI "Who is protecting Maddie's kidnapper?"
« Reply #302 on: April 12, 2017, 10:38:21 AM »
There must have been a good reason for that.

Such as ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

stephen25000

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Re: Former McCann PI "Who is protecting Maddie's kidnapper?"
« Reply #303 on: April 12, 2017, 10:42:05 AM »
It's the change of words that interests me
Some will understand it's significance to the jemmied shutters

Still saying with words save.

The Mccanns claims are known.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Former McCann PI "Who is protecting Maddie's kidnapper?"
« Reply #304 on: April 12, 2017, 10:44:05 AM »
So from the later link

“The person who has Maddie is most likely a paedophile or a person so desperate for a family they were willing to kidnap for it.

“I wouldn’t like to speculate on what is happening to her.”

"Hellish Lair", so beloved by sceptics for the purposes on mocking the man  is a media invention, no direct quote from Edgar using those words. 

So what's the problem?

From the first link.

"- Abducted by paedophile: “Most child-abusers dump the body quicklyand near the scene with little or no attempt to hide it. It’s a statistical fact. No trace of Madeleine, or her clothing, was found in a search.”
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Former McCann PI "Who is protecting Maddie's kidnapper?"
« Reply #305 on: April 12, 2017, 10:50:15 AM »
How do you investigate B/S ?

With the greatest of difficulty? wearing Bullshit Deflectors as PPE ?

The Dune Rats did a number called "Bullshit":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNwWzBXIycQ

I don't like it much but it's worth posting to see the reaction of the Rednecks. Cue comments like "vile specimens"   8(0(*
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Benice

Re: Former McCann PI "Who is protecting Maddie's kidnapper?"
« Reply #306 on: April 12, 2017, 10:56:45 AM »
By all accounts, Edgar,  Alfie.


http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/madeleine-mccann-is-in-a-secret-lair-28494565.html

' The Ulster detective leading the search for Madeleine McCann today reveals his most chilling theories yet, exclusively to Sunday Life. Hardened ex-RUC cop Dave Edgar told us he is convinced that little Maddie is imprisoned in a hellish lair – just like kidnapped sex slave Jaycee Lee Dugard.


 
He insisted the “back from the dead” reappearance of Jaycee – and the cases of Austrian cellar girls Elisabeth Fritzl and Natascha Kampusch – confirmed his suspicion.

And despite fresh leads taking his probe to Australia and Barcelona, the east Belfast man insists the golden-haired youngster is being held just 10 miles from where she was snatched in Praia da Luz two years ago.

But he warned that the sprawling wilderness where he believes Maddie is languishing is almost impossible to search completely.

Belfast-born Dave revealed the grim theories when he opened his case files to us................................. '

It's obvious that those words in bold above (including 'hellish lair')  are the reporters words - added to sensationalise the article.    Reporters do it all the time.

The idea that Edgar would actually say   'I have some grim theories - the most chilling one being that Madeleine is languishing  in a hellish lair'  is pure nonsense.

I agree with Davel - a good example of chinese whispers - where a person puts their own interpretation on what has been said to them.

IMO

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

stephen25000

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Re: Former McCann PI "Who is protecting Maddie's kidnapper?"
« Reply #307 on: April 12, 2017, 11:02:47 AM »
It's obvious that those words in bold above (including 'hellish lair')  are the reporters words - added to sensationalise the article.    Reporters do it all the time.

The idea that Edgar would actually say   'I have some grim theories - the most chilling one being that Madeleine is languishing  in a hellish lair'  is pure nonsense.

I agree with Davel - a good example of chinese whispers - where a person puts their own interpretation on what has been said to them.

IMO

Well, what a surprising response.

Why hasn't Edgar objected to those articles where this is mentioned ?

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Meanwhile I found this.


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"He feels this is the lone prowler who has Maddie stashed in a cellar or dungeon in the lawless villages around Praia da Luz."

"Former detective inspector Dave Edgar, who is leading the hunt, made a secret visit to Praia da Luz at the beginning of last week."


http://frommybigdesk.blogspot.co.uk/2010/01/madeleine-mccann-may-be-alive-and.html

Alfie

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Re: Former McCann PI "Who is protecting Maddie's kidnapper?"
« Reply #308 on: April 12, 2017, 11:03:57 AM »

As you know Alfie, bodies are not always found.
I'm sure Dave Edgar is aware of that as am I, but as I said, unles or until a body is found these theories stay on the table.

Alfie

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Re: Former McCann PI "Who is protecting Maddie's kidnapper?"
« Reply #309 on: April 12, 2017, 11:04:47 AM »
Such as ?
Do you want me to speculate, bearing in mind I'm not actually Dave Edgar and don't know the answers?

Alfie

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Re: Former McCann PI "Who is protecting Maddie's kidnapper?"
« Reply #310 on: April 12, 2017, 11:06:48 AM »
From the first link.

"- Abducted by paedophile: “Most child-abusers dump the body quicklyand near the scene with little or no attempt to hide it. It’s a statistical fact. No trace of Madeleine, or her clothing, was found in a search.”
And your point is?  Most do, but some also keep their victims for years, or is that a myth?  So if Madeleine had been abused and murdered her body would have been likely discovered quickly, the fact that it hasn't points to another scenario.

Alfie

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Re: Former McCann PI "Who is protecting Maddie's kidnapper?"
« Reply #311 on: April 12, 2017, 11:07:55 AM »
Well, what a surprising response.

Why hasn't Edgar objected to those articles where this is mentioned ?

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Meanwhile I found this.


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"He feels this is the lone prowler who has Maddie stashed in a cellar or dungeon in the lawless villages around Praia da Luz."

"Former detective inspector Dave Edgar, who is leading the hunt, made a secret visit to Praia da Luz at the beginning of last week."


http://frommybigdesk.blogspot.co.uk/2010/01/madeleine-mccann-may-be-alive-and.html
Once again, no direct quote. 

stephen25000

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Re: Former McCann PI "Who is protecting Maddie's kidnapper?"
« Reply #312 on: April 12, 2017, 11:49:21 AM »
Once again, no direct quote.

Tough.

Has Edgar denied these statements  ?

Nah.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Former McCann PI "Who is protecting Maddie's kidnapper?"
« Reply #313 on: April 12, 2017, 11:51:26 AM »
Tough.

Has Edgar denied these statements  ?

Nah.
Tough on you
You have failed to support the quote
Looks like it came from
Mybigblogspot
And not edgar

Offline faithlilly

Re: Former McCann PI "Who is protecting Maddie's kidnapper?"
« Reply #314 on: April 12, 2017, 11:54:49 AM »
And your point is?  Most do, but some also keep their victims for years, or is that a myth?  So if Madeleine had been abused and murdered her body would have been likely discovered quickly, the fact that it hasn't points to another scenario.

Read the link. First he says Madeleine couldn't possibly have been abducted by a paedophile then he says she probably has. He really does need to make his mind up. And you, if you request cites, really do need to read them properly.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?