Former McCann PI "Who is protecting Maddie's kidnapper?"

[Eleanor]

Both dogs are deployed to detect forensically recoverable evidence... Martin Grime

Please don't do this.  It is not necessary.

[Robittybob1]

So where would she be if alive ?

Now that is the question no McCann supporter seems to want to answer.

Yet they pursue it IMO , to protect the Mccanns.

On planet Earth provided she hasn't been abducted by aliens.

[ShiningInLuz]

The question has been answered and is extremely basic
I have already answered it tonight...
keela was deployed to find blood from a living or deceased person
So ducked the question again.... absolute rubbish I have already given the same answer tonight

The question was why was Keela deployed in Luz?

To jog your memory, Keela was deployed around 3 months after Madeleine disappeared.  Was she deployed to search for a live Madeleine. Or was she deployed to check along with Eddie for a cadaver?

Hint - the dogs did not go to Portugal for cheap alcohol, for a sun tan, or for a holiday.  Another hint - they were not used to find living people.

[John]

The question was why was Keela deployed in Luz?

To jog your memory, Keela was deployed around 3 months after Madeleine disappeared.  Was she deployed to search for a live Madeleine. Or was she deployed to check along with Eddie for a cadaver?

Hint - the dogs did not go to Portugal for cheap alcohol, for a sun tan, or for a holiday.  Another hint - they were not used to find living people.

And it is probably worth pointing out that had the English police not been involved in the enquiry, Eddie and Keela would not have been deployed.

[Brietta]

The question was why was Keela deployed in Luz?

To jog your memory, Keela was deployed around 3 months after Madeleine disappeared.  Was she deployed to search for a live Madeleine. Or was she deployed to check along with Eddie for a cadaver?

Hint - the dogs did not go to Portugal for cheap alcohol, for a sun tan, or for a holiday.  Another hint - they were not used to find living people.

Keela would most likely be as disinterested in a living person as she would be in a dead one.  Neither category was within her training parameters.
Her sole use was to detect dried blood.  She wasn't fussy if the blood came from the quick or the dead ... just so long as it was blood.

[ShiningInLuz]

This is bullshit.  The McCanns were always liable to return to Portugal, albeit with some dissent.  But it would always have happened If there had been any evidence.

You are now getting silly.

I have to tell you that I would defend France with my dying breath, but not ever for this shite.  Sometimes you have to remember what sort of Justice you want.

Kate's book said they were planning to leave.

p232 "We'd waited almost 4 weeks for these interviews and it was obvious they had been hastily arranged once Bob Small notified the PJ that we were leaving the country.  Otherwise, why now?  As far as we knew, they didn't have the forensics results back yet."

If you think it is bullshit, you need a cite.

Kate is clear about the sequence of events.  Supporters seem to find her sequence problematical.  For the life of me I cannot think why, given that it is the sequence in which things happened.

[ShiningInLuz]

Keela was deployed to identify the scent of blood ... nothing more nothing less.

Disingenuous, IMO.

Why fly out a person whose experience is finding traces of dead bodies, with one dog allegedly a cadaver dog, and the other trained to detect human blood if the aim in flying them out was to track a living person?  The dogs were not tracker dogs and were not deployed to conduct any form of tracking.

They were deployed to provide intelligence as to whether Madeleine was 'simply' vanished or worse.

One can debate until hell freezes over what the alerts indicated.  That is not the point under consideration.

Why were the dogs taken to Luz in the first place?  What was the entirely human reasoning for flying Grime, Keela and Eddie to Portugal?

[stephen25000]

On planet Earth provided she hasn't been abducted by aliens.

Really Rob.

[Robittybob1]

Really Rob.

Believe it or not!

[Brietta]

Disingenuous, IMO.

Why fly out a person whose experience is finding traces of dead bodies, with one dog allegedly a cadaver dog, and the other trained to detect human blood if the aim in flying them out was to track a living person?  The dogs were not tracker dogs and were not deployed to conduct any form of tracking.

They were deployed to provide intelligence as to whether Madeleine was 'simply' vanished or worse.

One can debate until hell freezes over what the alerts indicated.  That is not the point under consideration.

Why were the dogs taken to Luz in the first place?  What was the entirely human reasoning for flying Grime, Keela and Eddie to Portugal?

In my opinion the Policia Judiciaria investigating team had chosen their culprit and were in the process of making the evidence fit the theory.
I think it may show how blinkered they were in their belief.

What they discovered was that building a substantive case requires the opposite approach to the one they had adopted ... which is following not the theory, but following the evidence.

The evidence did not validate the theory.  Yet here we are ten years down the line discussing a theory which had nothing to support it then and nothing to support it now.

[Mr Gray]

Disingenuous, IMO.

Why fly out a person whose experience is finding traces of dead bodies, with one dog allegedly a cadaver dog, and the other trained to detect human blood if the aim in flying them out was to track a living person?  The dogs were not tracker dogs and were not deployed to conduct any form of tracking.

They were deployed to provide intelligence as to whether Madeleine was 'simply' vanished or worse.

One can debate until hell freezes over what the alerts indicated.  That is not the point under consideration.

Why were the dogs taken to Luz in the first place?  What was the entirely human reasoning for flying Grime, Keela and Eddie to Portugal?

It's in the files
Grime says he trains dogs to detect forensically recoverable evidence
The value of the dogs is in the evidence they recover
Keela detects blood

[G-Unit]

Kate's book said they were planning to leave.

p232 "We'd waited almost 4 weeks for these interviews and it was obvious they had been hastily arranged once Bob Small notified the PJ that we were leaving the country.  Otherwise, why now? As far as we knew, they didn't have the forensics results back yet."

If you think it is bullshit, you need a cite.

Kate is clear about the sequence of events.  Supporters seem to find her sequence problematical.  For the life of me I cannot think why, given that it is the sequence in which things happened.

23rd August;

In any case, as we were now being kept in the dark, we didn’t know much about it ourselves by this stage
[Madeleine]

Clearly the PJ had no intention of telling them anything, let alone if the forensic results were back. Was someone else keeping them informed?

[slartibartfast]

Keela went to eliminate Eddies alerts in places where blood was found. Simple.

[Mr Gray]

Keela went to eliminate Eddies alerts in places where blood was found. Simple.

No
If they both alert it could be blood and cadaver

[Robittybob1]

Keela went to eliminate Eddies alerts in places where blood was found. Simple.

Hard to change opinion?