The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?

[Holly Goodhead]

The innocence fraud starts with Bamber

This is what the CT state i.e Virginia Greaves phoned Bamber
But it’s alluded to here it was Anji Greaves as opposed to Virginia her sister?
Who was JM thinking of at this point? Did she ever become aware of - or was she ever told of Anji before Bamber’s trial?
What did Virginia Greaves witness statement say regarding her alleged phone call to Bamber at SC’s flat and did the evidence support the phone call was made by her?

Anji and Virginia Greaves are sisters.  I think JB dated VG briefly at some stage.  Post JM he got together with AG but I think the person phoning when JM smashed a mirror was VG who was calling to rent a room in SC's flat because she worked in London. 

[Nicholas]

Jeremy needs people he can manipulate - he has to be in control. The rubbish in the public domain is mostly down to him and as a supporter, I've heard most of it before from the horses mouth - and more besides. I don't think he's done with the BS yet.

Do you think he’s manipulating Mark Newby?

[Caroline]

Anji and Virginia Greaves are sisters.  I think JB dated VG briefly at some stage.  Post JM he got together with AG but I think the person phoning when JM smashed a mirror was VG who was calling to rent a room in SC's flat because she worked in London.

He was also seeing her.

[Nicholas]

Anji and Virginia Greaves are sisters.

Yep they are

I think JB dated VG briefly at some stage.

Where’s her witness statement ?

And where’s her sisters witness statement ?

Post JM he got together with AG

According to the Sun article AG says otherwise ?

I think the person phoning when JM smashed a mirror was VG who was calling to rent a room in SC's flat because she worked in London.

Thought JM smashed the mirror cos she’d realised Bamber was a cheat?

[Holly Goodhead]

Why didn’t Bamber (or his legal team) consider calling Virginia or Anji Greaves to give evidence in support of his character at his trial?

It seems many who could have supported the defence case were not called eg the Greaves sister and their mother who knew of JB, former girlfriend SF, relatives by way of Doris Tweed and the Howies.

[Common sense]

Jeremy needs people he can manipulate - he has to be in control. The rubbish in the public domain is mostly down to him and as a supporter, I've heard most of it before from the horses mouth - and more besides. I don't think he's done with the BS yet.

Indeed, what I meant regarding the CT need for control was really a transparent need to be JBs favourite which would give them motive to oust any competition for that position.

[Holly Goodhead]

He was also seeing her.

Both sisters simultaneously? 

[Holly Goodhead]

Yep they are

Where’s her witness statement ?

And where’s her sisters witness statement ?

According to the Sun article AG says otherwise

I only know what I've read in books.  Maybe Caroline or G-Unit who have CAL's book to hand can check back on her sources.

[Caroline]

Indeed, what I meant regarding the CT need for control was really a transparent need to be JBs favourite which would give them motive to oust any competition for that position.

OK, and yes, I agree, which is where the ridicule comes from, like the 'knitting circle' and the Bamberettes. The CT are like the Bamber version of the WI - at least that's how I perceive them.

[Nicholas]

It seems many who could have supported the defence case were not called eg the Greaves sister and their mother who knew of JB

I asked WHY Holly - WHY weren’t they called?

What could Bamber’s reasoning be for not calling them to support him at his murder trial?

[Caroline]

Yep they are

Where’s her witness statement ? Mike hasn't posted it - will check CAL for you, I have the Kindle version so easier to search and post

And where’s her sisters witness statement ? As above

According to the Sun article AG says otherwise ?

Thought JM smashed the mirror cos she’d realised Bamber was a cheat? - She did

[Caroline]

Do you think he’s manipulating Mark Newby?

He manipulates everyone - so yes I do.

[Nicholas]

eg the Greaves sister and their mother who knew of JB

What was their mothers name and where’s her WS?

[Nicholas]

He was also seeing her.

Do your mean Bamber was also seeing Virginia or Anji or both - as well as JM?

[Nicholas]

But was JM’s sole reason for throwing the box at the mirror to do with Bamber being a cheat or was it at this point JM could deny her subconscious thoughts no more?

According to the mayo clinic,

“Denial is a coping mechanism that gives you time to adjust to distressing situations — but staying in denial can interfere with treatment or your ability to tackle challenges.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/adult-health/in-depth/denial/art-20047926