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Offline John

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1620 on: May 07, 2020, 05:48:29 PM »
This statement by Poppy Ann Miller

“also possibly frightened of being implicated in that by telling Essex Police that Jeremy had been planning the killings for some time and had told her, ‘tonight is the night’, she could be charged under Joint Enterprise legislation“

suggests maybe subconsciously she knows Bamber is guilty

What reason would JM have to know anything about joint enterprise legislation ? What a bizarre statement to make

I believe Julie answered this at the time.  She said that she didn't take Jeremy and his rantings too seriously. After all, what girlfriend would believe those claims and not run a mile? 

Answer: A brave one indeed!

In the end Julie was only too glad to have police protection knowing that Bamber was safely locked up.



Julie Mugford leaves court under police protection.
« Last Edit: May 07, 2020, 05:53:25 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline APRIL

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1621 on: May 07, 2020, 05:54:03 PM »
I don't remember reading anything about Julie visiting Canada, nor about the ludicrous accusation that she returned with any drugs.  After the trial, redtop payout and graduation, yes Julie did emigrate but I'm not sure if that included a promised job placement there as well.


Her husband and his family all lived in Canada. They met somewhere other than whilst they were both on holiday. Married in a village about 4 miles from me, and went back to Canada. As Caroline said, it's probably all myth. It was pushed very hard on blue but at least we now know from whom it originated.

Offline John

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1622 on: May 07, 2020, 05:58:04 PM »

Her husband and his family all lived in Canada. They met somewhere other than whilst they were both on holiday. Married in a village about 4 miles from me, and went back to Canada. As Caroline said, it's probably all myth. It was pushed very hard on blue but at least we now know from whom it originated.

The Jeremy Bamber forum has promoted so much utter balderdash over the years that it's undoubtedly a mammoth embarrassment to Bamber now.
« Last Edit: May 07, 2020, 06:04:19 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1623 on: May 07, 2020, 06:02:43 PM »

Sorry Nicholas. My reply was a tad sarcastic. I've heard this Canadian drugs story on blue and I've always disputed it. I was questioning how she could have afforded the flight to/stay in Canada, basically when she was still in school. She was only just over 19 when she first met Jeremy so it must have been prior to then. I don't think she came from the sort of family who could afford such a trip and the only money she had was what she earned doing odd jobs.

Don’t suppose JM’s parents finances were relevant to Bamber’s murder trial

What ‘sort of family’ do you mean?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Myster

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1624 on: May 07, 2020, 06:03:44 PM »
The is no evidence of a trip to Canada, think that might be a myth.

Her husband and his family all lived in Canada. They met somewhere other than whilst they were both on holiday. Married in a village about 4 miles from me, and went back to Canada. As Caroline said, it's probably all myth. It was pushed very hard on blue but at least we now know from whom it originated.
Chinese Chelmsford Whispers...
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1625 on: May 07, 2020, 06:04:30 PM »
The is no evidence of a trip to Canada, think that might be a myth.

Wasn’t me who suggested there was?

Thanks for clarifying though
« Last Edit: May 07, 2020, 06:13:00 PM by Nicholas »
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline John

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1626 on: May 07, 2020, 06:05:46 PM »
Chinese Chelmsford Whispers...

I like it...   @)(++(*  8@??)(
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1627 on: May 07, 2020, 06:07:50 PM »
Is this why Poppy Ann Miller was discarded ?

NB: Edited my original post and removed Ms Millers libellous statement
« Last Edit: May 07, 2020, 06:20:12 PM by Nicholas »
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Common sense

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1628 on: May 07, 2020, 06:19:01 PM »
The Jeremy Bamber forum has promoted so much utter balderdash over the years that it's undoubtedly a mammoth embarrassment to Bamber now.

You would think so but doesn't seem to find his own CT embarrassing and he has recently recycled the old police fired the second shot conspiracy from blue.

I'm sure the CCRC await his sensible and "strong package" with uncontained excitement. 

Offline APRIL

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1629 on: May 07, 2020, 06:20:22 PM »
Don’t suppose JM’s parents finances were relevant to Bamber’s murder trial

What ‘sort of family’ do you mean?


Her mum worked. I've no idea what her stepfather did, She had a brother. They were what I'd call an 'ordinary' family but I accept the word is as meaningful as "normal"!!! Let's say, they weren't in the same bracket as the Bambers.

Offline APRIL

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1630 on: May 07, 2020, 06:22:20 PM »
You would think so but doesn't seem to find his own CT embarrassing and he has recently recycled the old police fired the second shot conspiracy from blue.

I'm sure the CCRC await his sensible and "strong package" with uncontained excitement.


The trouble is, when some people passionately want something to be true, they're inclined to say things which appear to make it so.

Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1631 on: May 07, 2020, 06:32:44 PM »
Poppy Ann Miller does have a disclaimer at the foot of her blog, it reads:

“Disclaimer: the views expressed here and elsewhere by PoppyMeze Poppy Ann Miller represent its own passing opinions offered under protection of Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and Article 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights (the "Convention"), which has been incorporated into UK law by the Human Rights Act 1998. No allegations are made by PoppyMeze Poppy Ann Miller and/or therein implicit.
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Common sense

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1632 on: May 07, 2020, 06:35:12 PM »

The trouble is, when some people passionately want something to be true, they're inclined to say things which appear to make it so.

Indeed. All these people seem to have decided that JB is innocent before they even looked at any evidence and then they apply the JB innocence filter to their perception of anything and everything.

I refuse to believe that they don't realise that at least some of the guff they are peddling is utter nonsense though.

Offline APRIL

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1633 on: May 07, 2020, 06:41:43 PM »
Poppy Ann Miller does have a disclaimer at the foot of her blog, it reads:

“Disclaimer: the views expressed here and elsewhere by PoppyMeze Poppy Ann Miller represent its own passing opinions offered under protection of Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and Article 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights (the "Convention"), which has been incorporated into UK law by the Human Rights Act 1998. No allegations are made by PoppyMeze Poppy Ann Miller and/or therein implicit.


Oooh! That's a bit crafty, isn't it? She can come out with as much c**p as she feels like slinging, then write a disclaimer which says she hasn't made any allegations!!!

Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1634 on: May 07, 2020, 06:44:21 PM »

Oooh! That's a bit crafty, isn't it? She can come out with as much c**p as she feels like slinging, then write a disclaimer which says she hasn't made any allegations!!!

Won’t make any difference if JM decides to take legal action

And it appears her behaviour dates back at least as far as 2011/12 ?
« Last Edit: May 07, 2020, 06:56:35 PM by Nicholas »
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation