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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Sky Documentary - Searching For Madeleine
« Reply #210 on: May 04, 2017, 09:07:48 AM »
He failed to give a straight answer to just about every question he was asked, shifty doesn't even begin to cover it.  Must be the judicial secrecy training kicking in.
There were some very strange answers, especially the one about solving from your heart or your head.  It really sounded like he would blame the parents from his heart but from is head he hasn't got any proof.
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Offline Benice

Re: Sky Documentary - Searching For Madeleine
« Reply #211 on: May 04, 2017, 09:19:53 AM »
Pedro do Carmo was asked by Panorama if they were still suspects and he wouldn't give a straight answer, what does that tell you?

Could it be 'political'  i.e.  he didn't want to publicly contradict his own country's SC judges?
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Sky Documentary - Searching For Madeleine
« Reply #212 on: May 04, 2017, 09:22:41 AM »
There were some very strange answers, especially the one about solving from your heart or your head.  It really sounded like he would blame the parents from his heart but from is head he hasn't got any proof.

If one is a policeman and one is asked "are x,y & z suspects in your enquiry?", there is only one possible answer one can give regardless of its veracity, and that is No!
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Sky Documentary - Searching For Madeleine
« Reply #213 on: May 04, 2017, 09:24:32 AM »
If one is a policeman and one is asked "are x,y & z suspects in your enquiry?", there is only one possible answer one can give regardless of its veracity, and that is No!
No that could be a lie, the usual expression I found was "I can't confirm or deny that".
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Re: Sky Documentary - Searching For Madeleine
« Reply #214 on: May 04, 2017, 09:25:24 AM »
There were some very strange answers, especially the one about solving from your heart or your head.  It really sounded like he would blame the parents from his heart but from is head he hasn't got any proof.
Isn't he the same bloke who said "The McCanns are not suspects.  Period"?  Their names all look and sound the same to me (RACIST!!!!)

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Sky Documentary - Searching For Madeleine
« Reply #215 on: May 04, 2017, 09:28:57 AM »
Isn't he the same bloke who said "The McCanns are not suspects.  Period"?  Their names all look and sound the same to me (RACIST!!!!)
I heard him say that too but he carried on and said something along the lines of "but that doesn't mean we have stopped looking for clues".   He said this rather quietly so you might have missed it.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Sky Documentary - Searching For Madeleine
« Reply #216 on: May 04, 2017, 10:34:14 AM »
"The apartment was let out twice in the next  weeks before it was sealed off for  a full forensic examination". 
That is astounding.

I believe it was let out more often than that.  I think it was Carana who did the research and posted on the forum the names of at least four families who stayed there after the McCanns.
I think at least one of which were relations of the owner, so maybe no formal let there but definitely occupation.

If forensic evidence was ruined as a result of people being in the apartment during the initial search for Madeleine ... how much more so after forensic searches had been completed (anyone had to deep clean after that fingerprint powder has been splashed around?) ... and the occupancy throughout the weeks afterwords.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline jassi

Re: Sky Documentary - Searching For Madeleine
« Reply #217 on: May 04, 2017, 10:45:31 AM »
I believe it was let out more often than that.  I think it was Carana who did the research and posted on the forum the names of at least four families who stayed there after the McCanns.
I think at least one of which were relations of the owner, so maybe no formal let there but definitely occupation.

If forensic evidence was ruined as a result of people being in the apartment during the initial search for Madeleine ... how much more so after forensic searches had been completed (anyone had to deep clean after that fingerprint powder has been splashed around?) ... and the occupancy throughout the weeks afterwords.

Interesting point.
Following a crime, how long would  it be reasonable for  an owner have to wait before regaining access to their property?
Normally a forensic team would be in, do it's stuff and be out again within a relatively short time, so re-letting a holiday property a couple of weeks later wouldn't seem unreasonable to me.
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Offline Benice

Re: Sky Documentary - Searching For Madeleine
« Reply #218 on: May 04, 2017, 10:47:03 AM »
Jane Tanner's sketch appears at 30:25 onward.

I think Martin Brunt's point about the Crecheman going in the long way around (wrong direction) is very important.  The little bit of uncertainty in Redwoods announcement just got considerably larger.

Collin Sutton is one who is not convinced by Redwood's explanation.  Bravo!

IMO Colin Sutton's comments about Crecheman showed that he has no more info about this case than the rest of us.

We know that Crecheman was apparently going in the wrong direction.  Does anyone think that SY didn't realise that too?

It's quite obvious to me that SY have discussed this with Crecheman who must have been able to give them a credible explanation for why he was going in that direction.    What SY haven't done is told the public what that explanation was.   

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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Sky Documentary - Searching For Madeleine
« Reply #219 on: May 04, 2017, 10:55:02 AM »
IMO Colin Sutton's comments about Crecheman showed that he has no more info about this case than the rest of us.

We know that Crecheman was apparently going in the wrong direction.  Does anyone think that SY didn't realise that too?

It's quite obvious to me that SY have discussed this with Crecheman who must have been able to give them a credible explanation for why he was going in that direction.    What SY haven't done is told the public what that explanation was.   

AIMHO
Knowing the general attitude they would be willing to sacrifice Jane Tanner's recollection.  Maybe she was that confused he was walking in the opposite direction to what she said.  She didn't see Jez didn't see Gerry, she didn't see Crecheman walking from left to right.  She got the pyjamas wrong and the girl had a blanket, wrong again.

I'm not agreeing with this but I could imagine Jane being the one to be downplayed.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Sky Documentary - Searching For Madeleine
« Reply #220 on: May 04, 2017, 12:01:19 PM »
IMO Colin Sutton's comments about Crecheman showed that he has no more info about this case than the rest of us.

We know that Crecheman was apparently going in the wrong direction.  Does anyone think that SY didn't realise that too?

It's quite obvious to me that SY have discussed this with Crecheman who must have been able to give them a credible explanation for why he was going in that direction.    What SY haven't done is told the public what that explanation was.   

AIMHO

Your faith in SY is admirable, as is their unconcern about looking stupid.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Sky Documentary - Searching For Madeleine
« Reply #221 on: May 04, 2017, 12:12:15 PM »
IMO Colin Sutton's comments about Crecheman showed that he has no more info about this case than the rest of us. .....

AIMHO
  If he did he didn't let on.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Sky Documentary - Searching For Madeleine
« Reply #222 on: May 04, 2017, 12:13:42 PM »
Your faith in SY is admirable, as is their unconcern about looking stupid.

Your post does seem more than a little biased
SY are far from stupid

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Sky Documentary - Searching For Madeleine
« Reply #223 on: May 04, 2017, 12:26:48 PM »
Your post does seem more than a little biased
SY are far from stupid
It seems Colin Sutton thought one person in SY was a little stupid regarding Crecheman.  That is how I interpreted his comments.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Sky Documentary - Searching For Madeleine
« Reply #224 on: May 04, 2017, 12:54:59 PM »
It seems Colin Sutton thought one person in SY was a little stupid regarding Crecheman.  That is how I interpreted his comments.

Colin Sutton has totally embarrassed the Metropolitan Police. He has revealed that the investigation was restricted before it even started.
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