What Happened To Madeleine McCann? - by Ian Horrocks.

[stephen25000]

So would you care to explain your theory then instead of just rubbishing mine.
You say "there is absolutely no verification of Kate Mccann's accounts of events" yet I repeatedly tell you that Gerry and Amy Tierney do confirm Kate's account.

Her comment do make sense to me.

Put up your theory for scrutiny please?

We've been through this all before.


That Rob was after 10 pm and therefore meaningless.

As to my 'theory' Rob, it is one shared by others, and hardly unique to me. I also defer to the possibility that she got out of the apartment herself, and if you wish to trail through my old posts, you can find the reason why.

However, unlike you  I do realize that there is insufficient evidence of any scenario to solve the case.

[Robittybob1]

It would have been easier if the Tapas had a'child checkig' schedule they stuck to.... alas this wasn't a consideration for their 'listening' checks. How remis. I wonder why they bothered with that system as they knew their children were prone to wake up, and the mobile ones could wonder and get themselves into difficulties of sorts. Hence why Kate left a door unlocked. Hence why a woke and wondered scenario is so hated and denied because it would apportion blame to the mother. 

It gets tricky but I tend to agree with what you are saying here.  But she can only be blamed for leaving the door unlocked, hardly a major crime.  She can't be blamed for abducting the child from a woke and wandered situation.

[Miss Taken Identity]

It gets tricky but I tend to agree with what you are saying here.  But she can only be blamed for leaving the door unlocked, hardly a major crime.  She can't be blamed for abducting the child from a woke and wandered situation.

I am not saying I agree or disagree with the woke and wandered theory. However I disagree with your analysis that based on leaving a child alone in an apartment who is free to wander outside to be abducted is a major crime in which The mother should shoulder some responsibility. They walked away from that- smiling, free to enjoy new lives. And became the biggest victims of police brutality, Portuges justice ( according to them and thier fan club) since Pontius Pilot.

[Robittybob1]

I am not saying I agree or disagree with the woke and wandered theory. However I disagree with your analysis that based on leaving a child alone in an apartment who is free to wander outside to be abducted is a major crime in which The mother should shoulder some responsibility. They walked away from that- smiling, free to enjoy new lives. And became the biggest victims of police brutality, Portuges justice ( according to them and thier fan club) since Pontius Pilot.

How could anyone think that the McCanns have had a wonderful time over the last 10 years? 

[Brietta]

I am not saying I agree or disagree with the woke and wandered theory. However I disagree with your analysis that based on leaving a child alone in an apartment who is free to wander outside to be abducted is a major crime in which The mother should shoulder some responsibility. They walked away from that- smiling, free to enjoy new lives. And became the biggest victims of police brutality, Portuges justice ( according to them and thier fan club) since Pontius Pilot.

If you really believe that the parents of a missing child ... any missing child ... or even any missing person ... emerge from that unscathed and "enjoying new lives" ... I believe you are sadly deluded.

[Miss Taken Identity]

If you really believe that the parents of a missing child ... any missing child ... or even any missing person ... emerge from that unscathed and "enjoying new lives" ... I believe you are sadly deluded.

My comments do not say they live happily ever after , They reflect that they are responsible for their daughters fate, and instead of being charged and  jailed( an may have been the case) they walked free to get new lives. They walked away free, smiling and they did and do enjoy berating anyone who dares to challege them and their theories. 

[carlymichelle]

My comments do not say they live happily ever after , They reflect that they are responsible for their daughters fate, and instead of being charged and  jailed( an may have been the case) they walked free to get new lives. They walked away free, smiling and they did and do enjoy berating anyone who dares to challege them and their theories. 

oh   come on supporters  were devastated  when  amaral  won even though they  deny it

[stephen25000]

How could anyone think that the McCanns have had a wonderful time over the last 10 years?

Their problems are self inflicted Rob.

Did you see the images/photos from the BBC interview.

Here's one of them.

[carlymichelle]

Their problems are self inflicted Rob.

Did you see the images/photos from the BBC interview.

Here's one of them.

wow  &%+((£ are they doing a modelling  course??

[Eleanor]

oh   come on supporters  were devastated  when  amaral  won even though they  deny it

Wrong.  I thought it was a huge opportunity to have a laugh at The Portuguese Justice System.

[stephen25000]

Wrong.  I thought it was a huge opportunity to have a laugh at The Portuguese Justice System.

Nah.

[Mr Gray]

Ian Horrocks is an experienced detective
He has said the dog alerts are irrelevant

[G-Unit]

Ian Horrocks is an experienced detective
He has said the dog alerts are irrelevant

He has also poured scorn on the idea that the parents are involved, but has no evidence to support his belief. Choosy!

[Brietta]

I have leaned towards the theory that the intruder had a key to the wooden door and made entry from there

However Horrocks' notion of how entry was made is worth looking at and it is something which the forum has previously discussed.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=6209.msg232924#msg232924

Horrocks says "These actions could be seen from within the Ocean Club area, as well as from the alleyway that runs between this and the apartment. Due to the height of the wall and foliage on top of it, as well as the area inside being well lit, in contrast to the darkness elsewhere, those dining would have been easily observed whilst anyone in the alleyway could remain unseen. Sunset on the 3rd May 2007 was at 8.25pm, so it would have been getting quite dark by 9pm.

Anyone observing their routine would have known that they had at least 20 minutes between each check. They would have observed the group for a few minutes and then gone to the apartment. At the end of the alleyway they could see that the road was clear, it is then only literally a second for someone to go through the gate and into the garden area, where they would be virtually out of sight. It is then simple to enter the apartment through the patio doors, which although closed, had been left unlocked."  End Quote

I don't think it would have been necessary for an intruder to be exposed using the road to the gate ... it would have been easy enough to get across the wall and gain entry from the garden.

Margaret Hall who had been baby sitting in apartment 5a the year prior to Madeleine's disappearance recounted witnessing a man lurking in the shadows ... we had some discussion whether that was at the front of the building or poolside.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=6209.msg232924#msg232924

In my opinion her encounter was poolside.
Which certainly ties in with what Horrocks has said about the ease of access from that area.

[Benice]

I am not saying I agree or disagree with the woke and wandered theory. However I disagree with your analysis that based on leaving a child alone in an apartment who is free to wander outside to be abducted is a major crime in which The mother should shoulder some responsibility. They walked away from that- smiling, free to enjoy new lives. And became the biggest victims of police brutality, Portuges justice ( according to them and thier fan club) since Pontius Pilot.

So the thousands of parents who have done exactly the same on holiday and also regularly left their children alone whilst they went to dinner - are all criminals IYO?    So why are some of them still doing the same - and why have none of them  been arrested?

I've never seen any evidence of the 'happy new life' which you infer the McCann family went home to enjoy.  AFAIAC if they were guilty - then a life which consists of living a lie every day and having to watch every word they ever said for the rest of their lives -  is not a life worth living.  The stress of having to do that - especially in public - would be intolerable.   Why would anyone choose such a vile life for themselves given the choice?

The McCanns did have a choice - they could have returned home - requested privacy - and just kept their heads down until it all disappeared from the public's mind.   

However,  It is glaringly obvious that the fact  they chose to do the opposite and kept asking for the case to be re-investigated are not the actions of guilty people - by any stretch of the imagination. 

The idea that they returned home to enjoy a new life could not be further from the truth  imo.

AIMHO