Author Topic: UK police guilty of flawed tunnel vision in hunt for Maddie McCann  (Read 88140 times)

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Offline carlymichelle

So why do you believe Horrocks ?

He has nothing to do with this case.

Sutton is pursuing no agenda, and unlike Horrocks was not employed by the Sun to comment on this case.

the sun adores   the mcanns  they treat the mcanns like royals

Offline jassi

When was the innocent tourist carrying his child home from creche interviewed?

When were those who were children at the time they were assaulted by an intruder interviewed by the police?

In my opinion the expectation is risible that the police publish to fanfares every step of the investigative strategy into the case of a missing child.

It is equally risible that a retired police officer with so many years of experience beneath his belt has gone on record to speak on issues which he has admitted to knowing absolutely nothing about ... apart from tittle tattle concerning the case at a time it was thought unlikely it would ever see the light of day again.

In my opinion it is enlightening that out of everything written and said ten years after Madeleine McCann's disappearance that the tunnel vision which so damaged any hope of finding her in 2007 has been espoused yet again in the words of the retired officer.  Who admits not to have studied the case in any great depth.

We know Madeleine is being looked for after her case being in the wilderness for so long.  There are officers who have actually worked on the present investigation now retired ... none of whom have either leaked or stated openly their dissatisfaction with how it is being conducted.

Mr Sutton has never been associated with Madeleine's case.
His access is via exactly the same files available to us; his police experience perhaps entitles him to a generic observation it will never allow him an in-depth analysis because he will never have access to the information available to the present investigations being carried out by the Policia Judiciaria and Scotland Yard.

I'm sure Mr Stalker and the one with the double barreled name felt they had informed opinions to share.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Brietta

Members are reminded of the necessity of making plain what is fact and what is fiction when posting.

Apologies ... that should have read opinion
« Last Edit: May 16, 2017, 09:37:04 AM by Brietta »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

stephen25000

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the sun adores   the mcanns  they treat the mcanns like royals

IMO, that is hardly surprising Carly.

Remember , they had serialization rights for Kate McCann's book in that excuse for a newspaper.

They would do , and have done nothing else, but back the McCann's.

Offline Brietta

I'm sure Mr Stalker and the one with the double barreled name felt they had informed opinions to share.

Mr Stalker's opinion is ...

Snipped from   MCCANNS 'ARE HIDING A BIG SECRET'

Sunday October 28 2007

By John Stalker



The sad fact is that we still have a missing girl and I believe the investigation will be focusing on the theory that she is dead.

The likeliest scenario is that her abductor panicked when he realised the attention the case was creating and killed her days after snatching her.

My fear now is that unless we find her body or her killer strikes again we will never know what really happened to that tiny child.

My instinct, based on years of policing similar cases, is that we are looking at an abduction where the child was targeted in the days before her disappearance.

On the night she vanished it is likely that her abductor simply spotted his opportunity and struck while he could.

I have been horrified by the abject failure of the Portuguese detectives to adhere to basic principles of policing.

The investigation does not seem to have taken a step forward from where it was in the first week after she went missing.  I cannot believe that the Portuguese only sent selected DNA samples to the forensic science lab in Birmingham.

There is absolutely no sense in that whatsoever.  To fully evaluate poor-quality DNA traces, as we believe these were, forensic experts need to see the whole picture.
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/6oct7/EXPRESS-28-10-07.htm

 
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Mr Gray

For a thorough analysis of the case Mr. Sutton will have to question the McCann's and company.

The very thing that OG failed to do, especially the McCann's, as they still remain the last known people to shave seen Madeleine alive.

As Sutton knew, some people we not going to be allowed to be questioned.
Sutton said he will
If you say he can't you are questioning his integrity

Offline faithlilly

Given the required weight by who?  Me?  Or by those who have ALL the known facts at their disposal plus the McCanns themselves on speed dial?

ETA for the seco d time of asking you didn't answer my question.  How about answering it now - do you now accept that the McCanns and their friends are neither suspects nor persons of interest?

However when the theory corresponded with your views that the former police officer was relying on his experience was good enouh. A tad hypocritical don't you think ?

Couple this with Exton's ( another experienced police officer) misgivings about the McCann's and their friend's statements, and you can see a pattern forming.

As to whether the McCanns are suspects if you remember way back in the deep, dark past we were also told the parents were not suspects, just before they were made arguidos.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline carlymichelle

i notice   the supporters are not talking about  the  fact that some think the  uk police including the article author think the  uk police  were too soft on the mcanns    i totally agree
« Last Edit: May 16, 2017, 02:04:55 PM by John »

ferryman

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I'm not sure Sutton has even read the case files.

Has he?

stephen25000

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I'm not sure Sutton has even read the case files.

Has he?

You seem worried that he has. 8)-)))

ferryman

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You seem worried that he has. 8)-)))

I would be (even more!) worried for Sutton's reputation if he had.

Offline jassi

I would be (even more!) worried for Sutton's reputation if he had.

Why should you worry at all?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Alfie

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Gerry McCann a key member of hacked off ?

Since when ?

Factual coverage in the press ?

Stating 'an abduction'  in the press is not a fact. Perhaps you should take note of John's comment on this.

IMHO, the press coverage in support of the McCann's do the exclusion of facts would be a more accurate description.

Remember the 'Sardine Munchers' from the Xenophobic comment by Tony Parsons.................


 "keep your stupid, sardine-munching mouth shut", and others.

http://themaddiecasefiles.com/topic2347.html

Take a look at this link. 8(0(*
Since about 2013 I believe

"The McCanns have been prominent in the Hacked Off group which campaigns for press accountability following the News of the World phone-hacking scandal".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29470599

More here:

http://hackinginquiry.org/mediareleases/leveson-without-the-law-is-no-change-gerry-mccann/

Quote
Kate and I had the misfortune to suffer the worst that the press could throw at us.

• We were labelled as murderers without a shred of evidence.

• Stories were published saying our daughter was dead – over and over again, with no evidence.

• We were subjected to round-the-clock intrusion at a time of terrible stress, with photographers camped outside our door.

• We were intimidated. Our young children, especially, were scared out of their wits.

• My wife’s private diary, revealing her innermost thoughts in her darkest days, was published without her consent.

• Rumours were dressed up as the truth

• and downright lies became front-page news. One newspaper claimed that we sold Madeleine into slavery in order to pay off our mortgage.

But yeah, the press was really, really kind to the McCanns. 


Alfie

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I'm not sure Sutton has even read the case files.

Has he?
By his own admission he doesn't seem to know much about the case at all so I doubt it.

Offline G-Unit

I would be (even more!) worried for Sutton's reputation if he had.

Sutton is the only one who has shared interesting information about Operation Grange. Armed with what he told Sky they asked more searching questions about the investigation than anyone has before. A C Rowley was unable to answer those questions in a satisfactory manner in my opinion.
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