CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles

[Mr Gray]

Cameron got  involved after public pressure, before he resigned.

Now let's have some cases of UK citizens abroad who have received assistance from Prime Ministers.

ive answerred your question...there was involveent because of the severity of the incident...you think its masons and other reason...i think you are wrong

[Mr Gray]

Because The UK Government weren't having Kate McCann falling down some Police Station stairs.  In My Opinion, since I can't possible know.

precisely...... the ambassador knew how suspects were treated in portugal

[John]

you can agree but if you cannot state as fact that the uk police told the pj to investigate the mccanns because of lackk of evidence of abduction...that is an opinion and speculation but not a fact as stephen claimed
#remember the rules re posting opion as fact

Unless they abducted their own child which I find hard to believe. Why else would the girl's parents be investigated with dogs sent in to look for signs of a death in their rental apartment and hire car?

The only reason this happened was because the abduction claim drew a blank!

[John]

precisely...... the ambassador knew how suspects were treated in portugal

Correct 

That's the thread tidied up and I'm off out.  Please keep it tidy or there'll be hell to pay!   

[Mr Gray]

Unless they abducted their own child which I find hard to believe. Why else would the girl's parents be investigated with dogs sent in to look for signs of a death in their rental apartment and hire car?

The only reason this happened was because the abduction claim drew a blank!

whose idea was it to screen the rental car...not the uk

[misty]

Unless they abducted their own child which I find hard to believe. Why else would the girl's parents be investigated with dogs sent in to look for signs of a death in their rental apartment and hire car?

The only reason this happened was because the abduction claim drew a blank!

Was that in spite of 2 unidentified men seen wandering around Luz carrying a pyjama-clad barefoot young girl?

[John]

whose idea was it to screen the rental car...not the uk

Standard procedure.  Any and all objects associated with the suspects would be considered a target.

[Mr Gray]

Standard procedure.  Any and all objects associated with the suspects would be considered a target.

harrison said in his rog...
After the conclusion of the searches, a meeting in the Portimao offices of the PJ took place in the cabinet of Goncalo AMARAL and those present included Guilermino ENCARNACO, an official representative from the Leicestershire police, Martin GRIME and myself. During the meeting were exhibited videos with the details of search activities including the sniffer dogs lead by Martin GRIME. GRIME commented on the actions of the dogs and added that no confirmed evidence or information could be taken from the alerts by the dogs but needed to be confirmed with physical evidence.


amaral obviously wasnt listening

[John]

Was that in spite of 2 unidentified men seen wandering around Luz carrying a pyjama-clad barefoot young girl?

Not in spite of but because of. 

[Mr Gray]

Harrisons advice on what should be examined by the dogs..

McCann's Apartment.

The apartment in which the McCann's had stayed may present further
opportunities to search. The use of a specialist EVRD (Enhanced Victim
Recovery Dog) and CSI dog (human blood detecting dog) could potentially indicate on whether Madeline's blood is in the property or the scent of a dead body is present. In relation to the dead body scent if such a scent is indicated by the EVRD and no body is located it may suggest that a body has been in the property but removed. This search process could be repeated in all the apartments that were occupied by the friends holidaying with the McCann's.
Murat's House and Garden.

The property has been forensically examined to recover any surface trace evidence however the house and gardens may benefit from a fully invasive specialist search to preclude the presence of Madeleine McCann.
A method previously employed on similar cases has been to use the below assets.
Deploy the EVRD to search the house and garden to ensure Madeleine McCann's remains are not present. The dog may also indicate if a body has been stored in the recent past and then moved off the property, though this is not evidential merely intelligence.
Deploy the CSI dog to search the house to locate any human blood.
This will act in support of the forensic examination already completed.
An inhibiting factor will be on areas where Luminol has been used.


he also suggested murats car.....he never suggested teh mccanns car

[Mr Gray]

there is absolutely no evidence the uk police suspected the mccanns ...none whatsoever

[ferryman]

there is absolutely no evidence the uk police suspected the mccanns ...none whatsoever

Well ...

Go back to before the files were released and the comment of the Deputy Superintendent of Leicestershire Police.

Key point, there, though is whether he would say the same today.

Bet he wouldn't.

Otherwise, yes!

Agreed.

[stephen25000]

there is absolutely no evidence the uk police suspected the mccanns ...none whatsoever

Yet the UK Police suggested initially investigating the McCann's.

In this country , that would be standard practice.

Even more so, with the lack of any evidence to support abduction.

[ferryman]

Harrisons advice on what should be examined by the dogs..

McCann's Apartment.

The apartment in which the McCann's had stayed may present further
opportunities to search. The use of a specialist EVRD (Enhanced Victim
Recovery Dog) and CSI dog (human blood detecting dog) could potentially indicate on whether Madeline's blood is in the property or the scent of a dead body is present. In relation to the dead body scent if such a scent is indicated by the EVRD and no body is located it may suggest that a body has been in the property but removed. This search process could be repeated in all the apartments that were occupied by the friends holidaying with the McCann's.
Murat's House and Garden.

The property has been forensically examined to recover any surface trace evidence however the house and gardens may benefit from a fully invasive specialist search to preclude the presence of Madeleine McCann.
A method previously employed on similar cases has been to use the below assets.
Deploy the EVRD to search the house and garden to ensure Madeleine McCann's remains are not present. The dog may also indicate if a body has been stored in the recent past and then moved off the property, though this is not evidential merely intelligence.
Deploy the CSI dog to search the house to locate any human blood.
This will act in support of the forensic examination already completed.
An inhibiting factor will be on areas where Luminol has been used.


he also suggested murats car.....he never suggested teh mccanns car

[Mr Gray]

Yet the UK Police suggested initially investigating the McCann's.

In this country , that would be standard practice.

Even more so, with the lack of any evidence to support abduction.

the uk police explained standard practice...there is no evidence of anything else