CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles

[stephen25000]

the uk police explained standard practice...there is no evidence of anything else

Indeed, no evidence of abduction.

Certainly no forensic indication of a third party in the apartment.

Yet the UK police who then became involved 'changed their mind'.

Meanwhile all the 'leads' have evaporated. 


So, I and others now wait for the shelving of the case.

[Mr Gray]

Indeed, no evidence of abduction.

Certainly no forensic indication of a third party in the apartment.

Yet the UK police who then became involved 'changed their mind'.

Meanwhile all the 'leads' have evaporated. 


So, I and others now wait for the shelving of the case.

who said they changed their mind. it looks as though they have followed my line of thinking and see abduction as way ahead the most likely explanation for maddies disappearance

[Angelo222]

there is absolutely no evidence the uk police suspected the mccanns ...none whatsoever

Surely you can't be that naive?

[ferryman]

Surely you can't be that naive?

Discount the (untimely) comment of the Deputy Chief of Leicestershire Police (that would undoubtedly not be repeated today) and there is none.

In the summary of the 30-page report Mr Rainbow wrote: “The potential involvement of the family in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann cannot be discarded, and it can be considered that, when pondering the basis for research, this hypothesis deserves as much attention as the criminal with sexual motivations that has been previously prioritised.

“It should be stressed that there is no evidence to directly support an involvement of the family, yet given the absence of decisive evidence to prove the contrary, such a scenario has to be explored.” At court last week, Mr Amaral’s lawyer, Antonio Cabrita, read out a section of 37-year-old Mr Rainbow’s report which said: “The family is a lead that should be followed.”

[Mr Gray]

Surely you can't be that naive?

im very knowledgable...I would say you are naive as you cannot see the obvious fallacies in the video

[ferryman]

No need to.

Those are the known facts, and 'abduction' isn't one of those.

Write to the Portuguese prosecutors and tell them.

[stephen25000]

Write to the Portuguese prosecutors and tell them.

You mean tell them what they already are aware of ?

Namely they don't know how Madeleine disappeared .

Well, they already know that.

[Miss Taken Identity]

how many british children disappear in these circumstances abroad...ben and Maddie and thats about it

No that's not about it actually. Here is a fact or two to throw that idea out.

It is a known fact by the government depts; that Many hundreds, maybe thousands of UK born children over the years, who have Pakistani/Indian parents/grandparents here- go missing. They are taken on 'holiday' and never seen again. Although it is illegal to perform underage marriages/ have sex with underage children this isn't the case in some countries. It is not investigated  because it is a cultural thing. The penalty is death if you refuse, so we really can't quantify how many British children go missing that the UK police do not investigate-
Sadly many hundreds are never reported missing...

[stephen25000]

Obvious ?

In what way.

No evidence has been found to show a third party in the apartment that night.

No forensics.

Zip.

All the trails have run cold.

A 1-dimensional remit, when a thorough investigation was promised to look at all possibilities.

[Miss Taken Identity]

a remit drawn up based on the evidence

What evidence would this be? If they are sure they know it is an abduction then why say they want to tell Kate n Gerry what happened to their daughter.. saving 12 millions all they need to say is... based on this evidence             ( naming it) Your daughter was abducted... now why don't they just do that...

[Miss Taken Identity]

its obvious to them maddie was abducted....thats what they are investigating...and they are taking no notice of amarals claims

Erm Rowley did take notice of the PJ claims regarding the official archived  files.. he says so...

[G-Unit]

And yet Ben's parents haven't received anything like the £11 million spent investigating Madeleine's disappearance.  Why the difference do you think?

I think the initial interest may have had more to do with Mark Warner than with the parents. Mark Warner paid almost a million Euros up front for the Ocean Club and committed to paying  rental for 27 apartments for ten years. The remainder of the purchase price was to be paid over 5 years from 2009 to 2014. In addition I believe MW also built the Tapas complex.

Mark Warner really pushed the boat out following the disappearance. Two directors flew out to Luz on 4th; the Managing Director and the Operations Director. Alex Woolfall, Head of Risk with Bell Pottinger and Alan Pike arrived the same day. Was it out of concern for the parents or concern for their considerable investment? Did the British Ambassador drop everything and hasten to Luz because of the parents or because of the business risk to Mark Warner?

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ROBIN_CROSSLAND.htm
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/CAROL_TRANMER.htm

[Brietta]

Indeed, no evidence of abduction.

Certainly no forensic indication of a third party in the apartment.

Yet the UK police who then became involved 'changed their mind'.

Meanwhile all the 'leads' have evaporated. 


So, I and others now wait for the shelving of the case.

What evidence of anything at all was presented in the 'O Enigma' documentary.
Here was the opportunity for the first coordinator of the investigation into Madeleine McCann's disappearance to give us a breakdown and an insight into the immediate steps taken to effect her recovery.

Did the former coordinator explain any of the procedures of elimination which led to him to fixate on his death conclusion for Madeleine?

Did he explain why he entirely ruled out a burglar entering the McCann residence?  Certainly worth a passing thought given the very recent burglaries in the apartments immediately above.

Did he explain why his investigation apparently ignored assaults on children when the PJ had DNA samples from the perpetrator available to them?  A valid reason why a possible escalation was apparently ruled out of the investigation might have been appropriate.

What 'O Enigma' gave us was a rehash of the original documentary using slightly different camera viewpoints.
Absolutely nothing else;  the former coordinator had nothing of substance to say ... and spent an hour saying it ... is it any wonder such a short sighted approach was incapable of finding any clue as to what happened to Madeleine and wasted the all important golden hours?

[pathfinder73]

there is absolutely no evidence the uk police suspected the mccanns ...none whatsoever

The McCanns got the truth loud and clear from UK police in court when they wanted their files (July 2008).

‘While one or both of them may be innocent, there is no clear evidence that eliminates them from involvement in Madeleine’s disappearance.’ (LP)

[Erngath]

The McCanns got the truth loud and clear from UK police in court when they wanted their files.

‘While one or both of them may be innocent, there is no clear evidence that eliminates them from involvement in Madeleine’s disappearance.’ (LP)

 


Can you remind me of the date when that statement was made.