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Offline Brietta

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #795 on: July 05, 2017, 03:44:04 PM »
The video is titled O Enigma. The person being discussed is described by Amaral as the enigma in or of the case. So the discussion is relevant to the thread.

We cannot discuss the person to whom you refer in the terms Amaral uses in O Enigma without defaming that person either in trying to defend him or to heap even more unsubstantiated and evil rubbish on his head.

This is a man who has really gone out of his way to trash the reputations of both parents of a missing child in any which way he can.  Not content with that he vilifies an innocent man on the say so of an attention seeking anonymous letter writer whose 'practice' in the field matches somewhat a level of incompetence with which he would be no doubt familiar.

O Enigma is of use only as an exemplar ... and as such is truly a vehicle to be observed with wonder.  How much more depraved does it all have to become before the penny finally drops? ... ten years is obviously not long enough for some.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline jassi

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #796 on: July 05, 2017, 03:53:30 PM »
We cannot discuss the person to whom you refer in the terms Amaral uses in O Enigma without defaming that person either in trying to defend him or to heap even more unsubstantiated and evil rubbish on his head.

This is a man who has really gone out of his way to trash the reputations of both parents of a missing child in any which way he can.  Not content with that he vilifies an innocent man on the say so of an attention seeking anonymous letter writer whose 'practice' in the field matches somewhat a level of incompetence with which he would be no doubt familiar.

O Enigma is of use only as an exemplar ... and as such is truly a vehicle to be observed with wonder.  How much more depraved does it all have to become before the penny finally drops? ... ten years is obviously not long enough for some.

No bias there, I'm glad to see. No siree   @)(++(*
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Brietta

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #797 on: July 05, 2017, 04:02:10 PM »
No bias there, I'm glad to see. No siree   @)(++(*

Thank you.  Much appreciated.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

ferryman

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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #798 on: July 05, 2017, 04:34:39 PM »
The source of the accusations clearly did not have any issues, before or after witnessing the alleged gesture, with her own husband overseeing the bathing of other people's children so there was nothing abnormal about that practice in her eyes.

Still more pertinent (at least for me!) she (apparently) had no problem with the man who was the subject of her accusations and insinuations bathing her own children. 

For the full extent of the (ostensible) accusation, read the statement.

I just don't believe it.

That is, I don't believe that anyone harbouring the suspicions Mrs G's statement (as we read it!) apparently harboured would allow the man who was, apparently, the object of her suspicions anywhere near her (or his!) daughter.

What I suspect is neither DP nor Mrs Gaspar, but the statement attributed to Mrs Gaspar as we read it on-line.
« Last Edit: July 05, 2017, 04:40:45 PM by John »

stephen25000

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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #799 on: July 05, 2017, 05:20:58 PM »
Still more pertinent (at least for me!) she (apparently) had no problem with the man who was the subject of her accusations and insinuations bathing her own children. 

For the full extent of the (ostensible) accusation, read the statement.

I just don't believe it.

That is, I don't believe that anyone harbouring the suspicions Mrs G's statement (as we read it!) apparently harboured would allow the man who was, apparently, the object of her suspicions anywhere near her (or his!) daughter.

What I suspect is neither DP nor Mrs Gaspar, but the statement attributed to Mrs Gaspar as we read it on-line.

What you suspect ?

Mmm.

Offline misty

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #800 on: July 05, 2017, 05:47:26 PM »
What you suspect ?

Mmm.

As in the unsigned, final revised translation which is online. What was the nature of the revision?

Offline misty

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #801 on: July 05, 2017, 06:40:32 PM »
IMO Amaral could cite the evidence from statements in the files as "proof" there were grounds for him reproducing the allegations under his licence of freedom of expression. "O Enigma" is not the only production in which he expresses the (libellous) remarks.
It may have been interesting if Dr P had sued first, for a lesser amount of damages, to see how the Portuguese judge & possibly the Appeal Courts ruled in that case.
« Last Edit: July 05, 2017, 07:51:54 PM by misty »

Offline jassi

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #802 on: July 05, 2017, 06:41:01 PM »
Is anyone going to court over it ?
« Last Edit: July 05, 2017, 06:50:15 PM by Angelo222 »
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #803 on: July 05, 2017, 06:48:43 PM »
Is anyone going to court over it ?
May I dare to suggest that the 'report to moderator' button probably has not been used, again?  But that if it has, this issue has been resolved.

 8((()*/
What's up, old man?

Offline Angelo222

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #804 on: July 05, 2017, 06:51:31 PM »
Is anyone going to court over it ?

Given recent events I don't think libel trials will rank too highly in the McCann's to do list.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Mr Gray

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #805 on: July 05, 2017, 06:54:30 PM »
Given recent events I don't think libel trials will rank too highly in the McCann's to do list.

They will if the libel is in the UK

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #806 on: July 06, 2017, 04:32:45 AM »
CMTV are to start broadcasting in France today via cable TV supplier Orange.
What's up, old man?

stephen25000

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Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #807 on: July 07, 2017, 09:09:00 PM »
As a reminder the topic is 'O Enigma'.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #808 on: July 07, 2017, 09:30:12 PM »
I.Y.O.
Amaral says that the alert proves Maddie died in the apartment
Misrepresentation
Fact not opinion

Offline Mr Gray

Re: CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles
« Reply #809 on: July 07, 2017, 09:31:06 PM »
Amaral says the children were sedated with calpol
Misrepresentation
Fact not opinion