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Offline valeria

Search for Madeleine McCann moves to Greece.
« on: September 08, 2017, 01:35:27 AM »
http://www.keeptalkinggreece.com/2017/08/28/madeleine-mccann-greece/

To my surprise i found this.
The original article was published in the newspaper To Vima which considered a reliable source. I couldn't find it on line.


Scotland Yard is looking for Madeleine’s secret in Athens


28 August 2017

Scotland Yard is looking for the secret of British toddler Madeleine McCann in Athens after a witness contacted the team Grange. A Greek newspaper revealed that a German citizen living in Athens contacted  “Team Grange” claiming he had information about the case as he was in nearby area when 3-year-old Madeleine disappeared from a hotel in Algarve Portugal  in 2007.

According to Sunday newspaper To Vima, the 46-year-old German citizen has already spoken with detectives of Scotland Yard’s “Grange”, a team established in 2011 and assigned with the Madeleine’s case.

The meeting between the British detectives and the German took place in Athens a couple of days  ago, the man reportedly gave critical information about the girl’s fate. He has been described as “important and trustworthy witness.”

New witness

Citing a memo prepared by the Greek Police on 18 July 2017, To Vima reports that the German national had contacted the Grange team last May the aim to help investigation. The Police memo was based on a briefing the Greek police representative in London had received by the Metropolitan Police of UK.

The 46-year-old had reportedly given to Metropolitan Policed “voluntarily and without any financial or other consideration, information about the case that has been cross-checked” and “he is considered a reliable source.”

Citing several police sources and documents, To Vima writes that the German national who has permanent residence in France was arrested in Igoumenista, North-West Greece, in 2011 for the transport of illegal migrants from Africa. A case was filed but he was set free. He was arrested again in Thessaloniki in 2015, when he returned to Greece for holidays. He was sentenced to seven years and five months imprisonment. He denied charges claiming he had helped the three hiking foreigners. He served his sentence in the prison of Chania, Crete, and from there he contacted the team Grange.

HE was released form prison a few weeks ago and he allegedly used a cell phone registered to a woman, national of a Balkan country, and resident of Agios Panteleimonas district of Athens.

The man had been banned from living the country pending 2nd degree trial scheduled for next month.

To Vima has reportedly contacted the man in the region of Fthiotida, Central Greece. He admitted to have talked with Scotland Yard detectives who had come to Athens in  order to talk with him.

“I give important information for the case. On the day Madeleine disappeared I was also in the particular province in Portugal, in a neighboring area,” the German national told the newspaper. He claimed that he had contacted the local police back then but there was no further investigation.

“Now there is keen interest from Scotland Yard for the information I have, however I am not allowed to say anything to anyone else.” the man said adding that his cooperation with British police will continue in the coming days.

To Vima-reporter’s question about Madeleine’s fate and if he thinks she was still alive, the man replied, ten years have passed since then are a lot..”

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« Last Edit: September 08, 2017, 04:54:11 PM by John »

Offline Brietta

Re: Search for Madeleine McCann moves to Greece.
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2017, 02:03:43 AM »
http://www.keeptalkinggreece.com/2017/08/28/madeleine-mccann-greece/

To my surprise i found this.
The original article was published in the newspaper To Vima which considered a reliable source. I couldn't find it on line.

Is this the original?

Η Σκότλαντ Γιαρντ ψάχνει το «μυστικό» της μικρής Μαντλίν στην Αθήνα
«Το Βήμα» αποκαλύπτει την ελληνική διάσταση στο θρίλερ του τρίχρονου κοριτσιού που εξαφανίστηκε το 2007 από την Πορτογαλία
ΔΗΜΟΣΙΕΥΣΗ:  27/08/2017 05:45
http://www.tovima.gr/society/article/?aid=897233
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Search for Madeleine McCann moves to Greece.
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2017, 05:51:29 AM »
Is this the original?

Η Σκότλαντ Γιαρντ ψάχνει το «μυστικό» της μικρής Μαντλίν στην Αθήνα
«Το Βήμα» αποκαλύπτει την ελληνική διάσταση στο θρίλερ του τρίχρονου κοριτσιού που εξαφανίστηκε το 2007 από την Πορτογαλία
ΔΗΜΟΣΙΕΥΣΗ:  27/08/2017 05:45
http://www.tovima.gr/society/article/?aid=897233
Google translate "Scottland Yard searches for Little Todd's "secret" in Athens
"Vima" reveals the Greek dimension in the thriller of the three-year-old girl who disappeared in 2007 from Portugal
PUBLICATION: 27/08/2017 05:45"
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Offline valeria

Re: Search for Madeleine McCann moves to Greece.
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2017, 12:39:10 PM »
Is this the original?

Η Σκότλαντ Γιαρντ ψάχνει το «μυστικό» της μικρής Μαντλίν στην Αθήνα
«Το Βήμα» αποκαλύπτει την ελληνική διάσταση στο θρίλερ του τρίχρονου κοριτσιού που εξαφανίστηκε το 2007 από την Πορτογαλία
ΔΗΜΟΣΙΕΥΣΗ:  27/08/2017 05:45
http://www.tovima.gr/society/article/?aid=897233

Yes it is. There is the  link to the original article but i didn't notice it.
It was late at night when i saw it. It seems i was too sleepy to be observant.

Offline jassi

Re: Search for Madeleine McCann moves to Greece.
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2017, 12:45:23 PM »
True or false, that should guarantee the money . %£&)**#
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Brietta

Re: Search for Madeleine McCann moves to Greece.
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2017, 12:52:04 PM »
True or false, that should guarantee the money . %£&)**#

I don't like it.
If Scotland Yard and Policia Judiciria enquiries have led to Greece, we now all know it;  and if we know it so does whoever is of interest to them in Greece.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline John

Re: Search for Madeleine McCann moves to Greece.
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2017, 01:20:40 PM »
Scotland Yard searches for Little Toddler's "secret" in Athens

"The Tribune" reveals the Greek dimension in the mystery of the three-year-old girl who disappeared from Portugal in 2007.



Published: 27/08/2017

Greece seems to hold the "secret" to the disappearance in May 2007 of three-year-old Madeleine McCann, who has been in the last decade the subject of world public interest!

According to documents and testimonies in the last few days, the British police have been working with Hellenic (The National Police Service of Greece) on information from a 46-year-old German resident of Greece who had been arrested and identified as an important and trustworthy witness to Little Toddler's disappearance. It seems that Scotland Yard met the man in Athens a few days ago, seeking crucial information about the fate of the girl.

Operation Grange

Madeleine disappeared on May 3, 2007, at the age of three, in the small town of Praia da Luz in the Algarve region of Portugal. She was on vacation with her parents, Kate and Gary McCann, her two-year-old twin siblings and a family of family friends with their children. The three-year-old and her siblings went to bed at 8.30 pm on the ground floor of their apartment, in the resort where they were staying, while their parents and their friends dined in a restaurant about 50 meters away. The parents checked their children all night until Madeline's mother discovered, around 10pm that the girl had disappeared. From an incomplete DNA analysis, the Portuguese police reached an initial conclusion that Madeleine had died as a result of an accident in the apartment and that her parents had attempted to "cover up the incident." In September 2007 her parents were officially made "suspects". However, the Portuguese Public Prosecutor's Office filed the case in July 2008 because of a lack of evidence.

Initially, there was an investigation of the girl's parents suspected of her death. In 2011, Scotland Yard's "Operation Grange" was launched with the participation of 30 detectives to gather evidence of Little Madeleine's fate. And so began to develop various scenarios for what had happened that fateful night. Based on the testimony of a family friend, the investigation focused on a suspect who had appeared near the hotel room that night holding a little girl. However, in October 2013 he proved to be a British tourist who had nothing to do with the case who was carrying his own daughter.

The main suspect

Enquiries also turned to a 34-year-old Briton of Portuguese origin who was a real estate consultant and had been seen near the point of the girl's disappearance and had shown "too much zeal" to locate her. Still, suspicions had arisen at the expense of one of Madeleine's friends who had offered to go to check if the McCann family was asleep in their apartment. Without being told to do thorough scrutiny, he had seen the door open. In addition, testimonies of Irish holidaymakers reported an unknown man with brown hair and beige pants who was seen rushing nearby holding a girl who fitted Madeleine's description. Also, there were cases of burglaries and robberies that had occurred in the region, as well as the role of an African worker in the restaurant, who was killed in a tractor accident in 2009. However, there was no real effect and most scenarios were rejected. A total of 8,500 reports have been gathered over Madeleine's destiny during the past 10 years as part of the "Operation Grange", and research has been a problem because of their tight funding. However, at the end of last spring there were statements by investigators that "new important facts have been found".

While the Greek dimension of the mystery appeared a few weeks ago. On July 18, 2017, the Directorate for International Police Co-operation at Katehaki Avenue drafted a document referring to the "liaison" with the Metropolitan Police of Great Britain in London. As noted, "In May 2017, a 46-year-old German, living in Athens, contacted the Operation Grange group to help with these enquiries . " According to the same document, the 46-year-old was imprisoned for transportation of illegal immigrants and was present at police services, but he has not been identified ...

Reliable witness?

As illustrated in the International Police Co-operation Directorate's letter based on Scotland Yard's information, " so far, the information he has given voluntarily and without any monetary or other consideration to the Metropolitan Police about the case has been cross-checked and is considered a credible source" !
 
A further investigation by the Police Co-operation Directorate found that the 46-year-old German who had a residence in France had been arrested in Igoumenitsa in 2011 when he tried to drive three illegal immigrants from Africa with his car. Instead, a file was formed and he was then released . According to other sources, the man had been arrested in 2015 in Thessaloniki when he returned to Greece for a vacation. He was brought to the court where he was sentenced to seven years and five months in prison. He had denied all charges and claimed that "he facilitated the three foreigners who had made him home". He was detained in the prison of Chania from where he contacted the members of the "Operation Grange".

He was released a few weeks ago and allegedly used a cell phone owned by a Balkan countryman that lived in Agios Panteleimonas. In addition, he was banned from leaving the country in view of the second-degree trial scheduled for next month.

Testimony to "The Tribune"

"The Tribune" identified the 46-year-old foreigner and critical witness of the three-year-old Madeleine case in a region of Fthiotida. As he noted, "I met a couple of days ago at a Scottish Yard officer that came to Athens. I give important information about the case. On the days that Madeline disappeared, I was also - in a neighboring area - in the particular province of Portugal. I had then contacted the local police, but the investigation had been abandoned. Now there is a keen interest from Scotland Yard for what I know. You understand that something serious is coming to come here to meet me. But I have an explicit prohibition to say anything to anyone else. My cooperation with the English police will continue in the coming days "

***

However, in a question about Madeline's fate and if he thinks he is alive, he only replied that "the ten years that have passed since then are many" ...

(Apologies for the basic translation - John)
« Last Edit: September 08, 2017, 02:05:13 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Search for Madeleine McCann moves to Greece.
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2017, 01:21:54 PM »
True or false, that should guarantee the money . %£&)**#

One wonders why it took him so long to say anything or for two police forces and n sets of PIs to miss him completely.
Wait for it! the next instalment will probably be how he told the PJ and they took no notice.
Interesting that the article says it is the informant that is in Greece and not anyone else.
I suppose we have: Dodgy criminal type=> done for people trafficking => was in Portugal in 2007=> quantum leap.
But if she is being held in Greece that kind of "puts a stitch of hot lead up Dave Edgar's six".
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline John

Re: Search for Madeleine McCann moves to Greece.
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2017, 02:09:33 PM »
I do hope that this is a genuine breakthrough but in reality it is more likely to be yet another chancer trying to extort benefits given his situation.  A trip to Athens and back shouldn't cost any more than a couple of hundred quid.
« Last Edit: September 08, 2017, 02:45:34 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Brietta

Re: Search for Madeleine McCann moves to Greece.
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2017, 02:17:13 PM »
One wonders why it took him so long to say anything or for two police forces and n sets of PIs to miss him completely.
Wait for it! the next instalment will probably be how he told the PJ and they took no notice.
Interesting that the article says it is the informant that is in Greece and not anyone else.
I suppose we have: Dodgy criminal type=> done for people trafficking => was in Portugal in 2007=> quantum leap.
But if she is being held in Greece that kind of "puts a stitch of hot lead up Dave Edgar's six".

Like many, many others he claims to have reported what he knew to the local police at the time and had been ignored.

"“I give important information for the case. On the day Madeleine disappeared I was also in the particular province in Portugal, in a neighboring area,” the German national told the newspaper. He claimed that he had contacted the local police back then but there was no further investigation."
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8461.msg422586#msg422586
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Search for Madeleine McCann moves to Greece.
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2017, 02:26:33 PM »
Like many, many others he claims to have reported what he knew to the local police at the time and had been ignored.

"“I give important information for the case. On the day Madeleine disappeared I was also in the particular province in Portugal, in a neighboring area,” the German national told the newspaper. He claimed that he had contacted the local police back then but there was no further investigation."
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8461.msg422586#msg422586

In the light of that I will amend the first line of my original post.
One wonders why it took him so long to say anything to The MPS or for two onepolice forces and n sets of PIs to miss him completely
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline faithlilly

Re: Search for Madeleine McCann moves to Greece.
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2017, 02:43:46 PM »
In the light of that I will amend the first line of my original post.
One wonders why it took him so long to say anything to The MPS or for two onepolice forces and n sets of PIs to miss him completely

Indeed Alice.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline John

Re: Search for Madeleine McCann moves to Greece.
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2017, 02:45:14 PM »
Like many, many others he claims to have reported what he knew to the local police at the time and had been ignored.

"“I give important information for the case. On the day Madeleine disappeared I was also in the particular province in Portugal, in a neighboring area,” the German national told the newspaper. He claimed that he had contacted the local police back then but there was no further investigation."
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8461.msg422586#msg422586

More than likely the police found him not credible.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Search for Madeleine McCann moves to Greece.
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2017, 02:46:24 PM »
In the light of that I will amend the first line of my original post.
One wonders why it took him so long to say anything to The MPS or for two onepolice forces and n sets of PIs to miss him completely

I don't know much about the law in Greece, but I wondered why he's out of prison if he was sentenced to over 7 years in 2015.
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Re: Search for Madeleine McCann moves to Greece.
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2017, 03:22:49 PM »
Is this yet another example of someone wanting their 15 minutes of 'fame' ?