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Offline jassi

I think Kate would have looked for other clues.  If Madeleine had moved it did she move anything else to confirm it?
There seems to be a hidden reason that we are not party to.  Why was Matt's check not enough.  Why was it so important to see that Madeleine in particular was OK?  Why did the moved door not set off intruder alarm bells?

Was there some reason he walks uphill when he meets up with Jez even though he was supposedly heading in the other direction?

Why did he even bother talking to Jez ?
If in a similar position, I would just have acknowledge him with a 'Ow do ?' and gone on back to my friends in the Tapas.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Lace

that there were others concerned for the welfare of their children.

Why should he think that, they wasn't bothered about their welfare, that is obvious imo.

I didn't know he had noticed the door moved, why didn't he mention it to kmccann. after all he had checked to make sure everything was ok - it wasn't

So if the abductor was in the room [if] - was he there when matt made his check.

If not then, the window should have been open, shutters up etc etc.

So door moved again, when kmccann goes, convenient gust of wind, window open.

Yet she still runs out, leaving twins, why didn't she scream for help - after all like some say it was like being in a garden.

Then they still put twins in creche next day, regardless of their welfare, the only reason i can think of for that, is they knew they were safe.

All my post imo

How was Matt supposed to know how far the McCann's had left the door open?   You say 'why didn't he tell the McCann's'   tell them what?   It's easy to say these things after the event isn't it,   Matt had no reason to tell the McCann's anything and there is nothing in the files to say he moved the door at all,  so it would have been in the same place when Kate McCann did her check.

Kate McCann searched the apartment,   there was no one in the apartment,  she ran calling to the Tapas group that Madeleine was gone.

So,  you think one of the Nanny's would steal the twins in the daytime with other children and parents there?   Who would be accused of taking them I wonder?   

IMO

Offline Lace

Why did he even bother talking to Jez ?
If in a similar position, I would just have acknowledge him with a 'Ow do ?' and gone on back to my friends in the Tapas.

Whether or not you would just say 'ow do'   is immaterial,   Gerry stopped to talk to Jez,  how do you know that it wasn't Jez who started the conversation?

Offline jassi

Whether or not you would just say 'ow do'   is immaterial,   Gerry stopped to talk to Jez,  how do you know that it wasn't Jez who started the conversation?

Quite right. So why did you respond? Automatic attack mode?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Lace

Quite right. So why did you respond? Automatic attack mode?

So why did you post it?   Attack mode on Gerry McCann?

Offline kizzy

How was Matt supposed to know how far the McCann's had left the door open?   You say 'why didn't he tell the McCann's'   tell them what?   It's easy to say these things after the event isn't it,   Matt had no reason to tell the McCann's anything and there is nothing in the files to say he moved the door at all,  so it would have been in the same place when Kate McCann did her check.

Kate McCann searched the apartment,   there was no one in the apartment,  she ran calling to the Tapas group that Madeleine was gone.

So,  you think one of the Nanny's would steal the twins in the daytime with other children and parents there?   Who would be accused of taking them I wonder?   

IMO

Is that all iyo, what are you posting here, you are totally misquoting my post. re read it.

Did i say matt noticed the door moved. no

Did i say, why didn't he tell the mccanns. no

Did i say one of the nannies could steal them. no

They imo were left vulnerable, when anyone could have been the so called abductor - in that complex.

Yes, she searched apartment for ten minutes wasn't it, knew maddie had been took - yet left them in there. 

And then, and then , let twenty odd people in there, destroying any forencic finger prints that could of been found. imo

Offline jassi

So why did you post it?   Attack mode on Gerry McCann?

How is it an attack on Gerry?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline kizzy

Not everyone believes maddie was abducted, simple as that.
« Last Edit: January 23, 2018, 03:29:14 PM by John »

Offline Lace

Is that all iyo, what are you posting here, you are totally misquoting my post. re read it.

Did i say matt noticed the door moved. no

Did i say, why didn't he tell the mccanns. no

Did i say one of the nannies could steal them. no

They imo were left vulnerable, when anyone could have been the so called abductor - in that complex.

Yes, she searched apartment for ten minutes wasn't it, knew maddie had been took - yet left them in there. 

And then, and then , let twenty odd people in there, destroying any forencic finger prints that could of been found. imo

You said -   I didn't know he had noticed the door moved, why didn't he mention it to kmccann. after all he had checked to make sure everything was ok - it wasn't

Offline kizzy

You said -   I didn't know he had noticed the door moved, why didn't he mention it to kmccann. after all he had checked to make sure everything was ok - it wasn't

Kmccann yes, not the mccanns, if you had read it properly, instead of dying to criticises it - you would have seen it was in reply to rob about gmccann.. imo

Offline Lace

Kmccann yes, not the mccanns, if you had read it properly, instead of dying to criticises it - you would have seen it was in reply to rob about gmccann.. imo

Sorry.

Still why would he say anything?   Madeleine could have got up to go to the toilet couldn't she?

Offline Lace

Not everyone believes maddie was abducted, simple as that.

Well if I had made that comment about say amaral,   I would be accused of making things up or trying to change what happened.
« Last Edit: January 23, 2018, 03:29:37 PM by John »

Offline kizzy

Sorry.

Still why would he say anything?   Madeleine could have got up to go to the toilet couldn't she?
 

Because he went to check all was ok, it wasn't then was it.

Wow, so maddie had mabey got up to go to toilet, don't you think that would have terrified her being in a dark apartment finding she was alone,

But managed to get back in bed in the same position they had left her.

Offline jassi

 

Because he went to check all was ok, it wasn't then was it.

Wow, so maddie had mabey got up to go to toilet, don't you think that would have terrified her being in a dark apartment finding she was alone,

But managed to get back in bed in the same position they had left her.

Allegedly she was very bright for her age. Perhaps this brightness illuminated the way. 
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline kizzy

Allegedly she was very bright for her age. Perhaps this brightness illuminated the way.
 

Obviously, and not afraid of being alone as well.