Where were Jez and Gerry standing when they did their talking? Ideas solutions

[John]

Good idea John.  However there are reasons why they might not have seen Jane pass which I have detailed on another thread.  I dont intend to go over it all again.

Personally I doubt even Jane, who seems a very brave woman, would have cared to go up that alleyway on her own after/as darkness fell

There would have been light emanating from the adjacent apartments so the pathway wouldn't have been in total darkness.

[Brietta]

There would have been light emanating from the adjacent apartments so the pathway wouldn't have been in total darkness.

I don't think Jane would have been too phased by walking up that pathway to enter her apartment.  What legislates against that for me is that she stated categorically that she always entered by the front because all the doors were locked.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JANE-TANNER-10MAY.htm

[John]

I don't think Jane would have been too phased by walking up that pathway to enter her apartment.  What legislates against that for me is that she stated categorically that she always entered by the front because all the doors were locked.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JANE-TANNER-10MAY.htm

In that same statement she admits, "She thinks that all the other couples entered by the front doors of the building/apartments, except for the McCanns."  THINKS but not certain?

[Brietta]

In that same statement she admits, "She thinks that all the other couples entered by the front doors of the building/apartments, except for the McCanns."  THINKS but not certain?

They were all responsible for checking their own children as per the MW listening routine they had used elsewhere.  It only later evolved into doing a courtesy listen at the windows.
Just an honest response to a question about a situation she was not monitoring and was therefore unable to state categorically what the others were doing.

[pathfinder73]

I don't think Jane would have been too phased by walking up that pathway to enter her apartment.  What legislates against that for me is that she stated categorically that she always entered by the front because all the doors were locked.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JANE-TANNER-10MAY.htm

You can get to the front using the pathway.

p.s. notice the lamppost opposite the tapas entrance where Madeleine used to cross using the short cut route. The tracking dogs found her scent there.

[Brietta]

You can get to the front using the pathway.

p.s. notice the lamppost opposite the tapas entrance where Madeleine used to cross using the short cut route. The tracking dogs found her scent there.

Thank you, I do know that, Shining provided the forum with some excellent photographs which proved the existence of that pathway.  I would say with certainty that Jane did not take that route as in my opinion it takes nothing off her journey but adds to it.

It is my opinion that she took the route she outlined on film and not a lane where in certain circumstances she could have been caught like a rat in a trap.

[pathfinder73]

It is my opinion that she turned left to avoid Gerry if she saw them because one thing is certain she never said a word to him.

They said they used the pathway in the daytime to go back to the front so of course I knew the pathway route existed and photos have existed from the beginning of the case.

[Brietta]

It is my opinion that she turned left to avoid Gerry if she saw them because one thing is certain she never said a word to him.

Why would she have gone out of her way to avoid a person who was quite obviously oblivious to her presence? and there is no doubt she saw Gerry and Jes although they did not see her how else did she know they had met.
Progressing beyond them enabled her to have a clear view of the man carrying the barefoot child ... lol, the presence of whom was almost certainly confirmed many years down the line.

[pathfinder73]

The man she saw has been cleared but I know for certain that she did not pass Gerry/Jez on that pavement walking up that road.

I mean Gerry, the sort of person Gerry is, I could never see us being best buddies because he’s very, we’re very different. I think he’s very err he’s quite forthright and so I don’t think we’d ever be best friends but there’s no problem there or anything like that you know, I feel bad saying that because it makes it sound like there is a problem but there’s not but you know it’s not, whereas Kate I was really, I was getting to know Kate quite well but yeah I think Gerry is sort of like more of a man’s man maybe. http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JANE_TANNER_RIGATORY.htm

Yes I think she avoided him.

[Robittybob1]

The man she saw has been cleared but I know for certain that she did not pass Gerry/Jez on that pavement walking up that road.

I mean Gerry, the sort of person Gerry is, I could never see us being best buddies because he’s very, we’re very different. I think he’s very err he’s quite forthright and so I don’t think we’d ever be best friends but there’s no problem there or anything like that you know, I feel bad saying that because it makes it sound like there is a problem but there’s not but you know it’s not, whereas Kate I was really, I was getting to know Kate quite well but yeah I think Gerry is sort of like more of a man’s man maybe. http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JANE_TANNER_RIGATORY.htm

Yes I think she avoided him.

Even the thing that was going through her head was not that complimentary  "Kate's moaning about how long you are taking"  or whatever thought went through her head.    She must have thought twice about stirring in the end,  but even when she did finally bring it up she was stopped in her tracks. All in my opinion, but I think they are all based on valid observations.

[faithlilly]

Why would she have gone out of her way to avoid a person who was quite obviously oblivious to her presence? and there is no doubt she saw Gerry and Jes although they did not see her how else did she know they had met.
Progressing beyond them enabled her to have a clear view of the man carrying the barefoot child ... lol, the presence of whom was almost certainly confirmed many years down the line.

How else did she know ? Gerry told her ?

[Alice Purjorick]

I thought they all signed off on it.  I could be wrong.

That sees to be an interesting proposition...

[Brietta]

How else did she know ? Gerry told her ?

No cite?

[sadie]

Ignoring a bit of evidence just because it doesn’t agree with your narrative is never a good idea.

So you are prepared to take on board a distance that is farther than the distance from
m the tapas reception to Tannerman are you?   

50 metres and could see all those details in a poorly lit street?

Come on slarti, let's have the intelligent slarti back rather than the one who is always pitching into certain people ?becos it is fun ?  or is it because you want to appear superior?

[Robittybob1]

That sees to be an interesting proposition...

Original written in English. 
Sequence of Events: Thursday 3rd May 2007 - 2030 to 2200
As recalled by:

Gerry McCann - 5A
Kate McCann - 5A
David Payne - 5H (First floor)
Fiona Payne - 5H (First floor)
Dianne Webster - 5H (First floor)
Jane Tanner - 5D
Russell O'Brien - 5D
Matthew Oldfield - 5B
Rachael Oldfield - 5B