Where were Jez and Gerry standing when they did their talking? Ideas solutions

[pathfinder73]

It would be helpful if you would provide a cite ... it would save me asking.

Same goes for all future posts.  Thank you

I've posted that waiter statement hundreds of times on this board. I thought you would have known about it by now if you removed your McCann blinkers.

[pathfinder73]

From Martin Smith's first statement
In 'Kelly's Bar' they consumed some drinks. They left that establishment around 21H55 as his son would be travelling very early the next day

His times were incorrect. Aoife's times were spot on so I'm using her statement for times.

[pathfinder73]

Around 21H00 they left the restaurant and went to Kelly's Bar, about one minute away on foot. In Kelly's Bar (he does not remember the name of the street it is on) they had a few drinks, having left from there around 21H50/22H00
Peter Smith's statement.

21:00 is incorect. See Aoife's statement for correct times.

[ShiningInLuz]

And yet none of them attempted to cover up the fact that they had all left their children unattended.  That doesn't make any sense.

?  As they were booked in the Tapas most nights, and they definitely left the children unattended on those, your contention makes no sense.

[G-Unit]

That's not how the rogatory reads to me.

Try this one, given when the events were fresher in her mind;

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DIANNE_WEBSTER_11-MAY07.htm

[Mr Gray]

?  As they were booked in the Tapas most nights, and they definitely left the children unattended on those, your contention makes no sense.

And the archiving report confirmed  they had not broken any Portuguese laws

[Vertigo Swirl]

His times were incorrect. Aoife's times were spot on so I'm using her statement for times.

Of course you are - it's always important to pick and choose which bits of which statements fit your theory.

[Vertigo Swirl]

?  As they were booked in the Tapas most nights, and they definitely left the children unattended on those, your contention makes no sense.

What you have written above is exactly my contention.  They made no attempt to cover their so-called neglect, yet Faithlilly believes they were trying to save their own skins over the neglect issue and that is why theiir statments cannot be trusted. 

[jassi]

As young girls are seldom off their mobile phones, they are likely to know exactly what time it was. IMO

[Vertigo Swirl]

Try this one, given when the events were fresher in her mind;

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DIANNE_WEBSTER_11-MAY07.htm

Dianne remembers "with precision" that the alarm was raised at 10pm so are we to use this statement as a reliable source now or not?

[Vertigo Swirl]

As young girls are seldom off their mobile phones, they are likely to know exactly what time it was. IMO

In 2007?  What was she doing on it? 

[jassi]

Texting probably

[Vertigo Swirl]

Texting probably

Would have been very expensive if she was texting friends in Ireland!

[Robittybob1]

Dianne remembers "with precision" that the alarm was raised at 10pm so are we to use this statement as a reliable source now or not?

The term precision relates to the event rather that an exact time.  Time requires a type of reference e.g. had she said I looked at my watch and it said 10:00 PM  then that would be more precise provided her watch was correctly set.

[Vertigo Swirl]

The term precision relates to the event rather that an exact time.  Time requires a type of reference e.g. had she said I looked at my watch and it said 10:00 PM  then that would be more precise provided her watch was correctly set.

The statement is unequivocal:

"Therefore, she can only say with precision that, at 22.00 Kate McCann returned to the restaurant, seemingly in panic, communicating to others the fact that of Madeleine's disappearance"