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Offline sadie

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #270 on: February 21, 2018, 03:43:04 PM »
Indeed, in my opinion not one of these sightings  proved to be anything other than the product of an over-active imagination.
And how did you come to that conclusion, jassi ?   What precipitated that thought ?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #271 on: February 21, 2018, 05:23:17 PM »
Indeed, in my opinion not one of these sightings  proved to be anything other than the product of an over-active imagination.
Have you followed the thread http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9133.0?   The sighting by Karen Sisson was never proven.  No, it was just accepted that Karsten Mayer was telling the truth.  I never saw any evidence other than police in Switzerland taking someone's word for it.   
I have asked OG to follow that up and complete the proof.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #272 on: February 21, 2018, 06:27:03 PM »
Have you followed the thread http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9133.0?   The sighting by Karen Sisson was never proven.  No, it was just accepted that Karsten Mayer was telling the truth.  I never saw any evidence other than police in Switzerland taking someone's word for it.   
I have asked OG to follow that up and complete the proof.

In my opinion you should keep your 'investigative suggestions' to yourself.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #273 on: February 21, 2018, 06:34:08 PM »
In my opinion you should keep your 'investigative suggestions' to yourself.
OK  but do you see the point that the incident is not proven negative?
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Offline Eleanor

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #274 on: February 21, 2018, 06:58:09 PM »
In my opinion you should keep your 'investigative suggestions' to yourself.

In my opinion there was no need for this rudeness.

Offline G-Unit

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #275 on: February 21, 2018, 08:29:23 PM »
OK  but do you see the point that the incident is not proven negative?

It has been said that OG were informed of this matter in 2012 and if they thought it was of interest I expect they made the appropriate inquiries at the time. You appear to be assuming they didn't, based on something you read in the press. If I was working in OG I'm not sure I would appreciate people assuming that something hadn't been dealt with.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #276 on: February 21, 2018, 08:51:19 PM »
It has been said that OG were informed of this matter in 2012 and if they thought it was of interest I expect they made the appropriate inquiries at the time. You appear to be assuming they didn't, based on something you read in the press. If I was working in OG I'm not sure I would appreciate people assuming that something hadn't been dealt with.
Well I should write to them suggesting a policy change then.  When they clear an incident they should explain what they did to prove the case was negative so the very people who reported the incident aren't left forever wondering whether they were right or wrong.

"and if they thought it was of interest I expect they made the appropriate inquiries at the time. You appear to be assuming they didn't, based on something you read in the press"  It sounds like you would be better off knowing too and it was not only what I read but also following communication with Karen Sisson. (Who may have joined the forum, I've certainly suggested it.)
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Offline G-Unit

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #277 on: February 21, 2018, 09:38:51 PM »
Well I should write to them suggesting a policy change then.  When they clear an incident they should explain what they did to prove the case was negative so the very people who reported the incident aren't left forever wondering whether they were right or wrong.

"and if they thought it was of interest I expect they made the appropriate inquiries at the time. You appear to be assuming they didn't, based on something you read in the press"  It sounds like you would be better off knowing too and it was not only what I read but also following communication with Karen Sisson. (Who may have joined the forum, I've certainly suggested it.)

It's quite simple really. The police will never report back to any informant because whatever they said would amount to releasing information relating to a live investigation. My opinion is that any informant should content themselves with having done their duty and leave it at that.

Mrs Sisson could, in my opinion, learn from the example of the Smiths. They have avoided the press as much as possible and gave their evidence to the authorities. I don't suppose OG have reported back to them and I don't suppose they expected them to.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #278 on: February 21, 2018, 09:44:28 PM »
It's quite simple really. The police will never report back to any informant because whatever they said would amount to releasing information relating to a live investigation. My opinion is that any informant should content themselves with having done their duty and leave it at that.

Mrs Sisson could, in my opinion, learn from the example of the Smiths. They have avoided the press as much as possible and gave their evidence to the authorities. I don't suppose OG have reported back to them and I don't suppose they expected them to.
I was just reading a comment about the Smiths leaving things alone.  " Ridiculous isn't it that THE two e-fits attempt to be the same man can be so different?
BUT just WHO described the face that no one saw?
if they were made without the direction of witnesses but rather from their statements the operator is likelier to have influenced the end result, they are not sketches I don't know what software was used to produce them but have some idea of the process was used, they have GERRY's features factored in the obvious one a pronounced flat hairline....". 
A new definition of "leaving things alone" don't you agree?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #279 on: February 21, 2018, 09:59:19 PM »
I was just reading a comment about the Smiths leaving things alone.  " Ridiculous isn't it that THE two e-fits attempt to be the same man can be so different?
BUT just WHO described the face that no one saw?
if they were made without the direction of witnesses but rather from their statements the operator is likelier to have influenced the end result, they are not sketches I don't know what software was used to produce them but have some idea of the process was used, they have GERRY's features factored in the obvious one a pronounced flat hairline....". 
A new definition of "leaving things alone" don't you agree?

I don't know quite what your point is. I'm sure we all have opinions about the Smiths, their evidence and those e-fits, but they aren't important.

The only opinion that counts is OG's opinion and they thought the e-fits were worth publicising. The Smiths have kept out of the limelight as much as possible and are to be commended for that in my opinion.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #280 on: February 21, 2018, 10:43:35 PM »
I don't know quite what your point is. I'm sure we all have opinions about the Smiths, their evidence and those e-fits, but they aren't important.

The only opinion that counts is OG's opinion and they thought the e-fits were worth publicising. The Smiths have kept out of the limelight as much as possible and are to be commended for that in my opinion.
I listen to opinions as well.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #281 on: February 22, 2018, 05:48:19 AM »
I listen to opinions as well.

Criticising the Smith sighting or the e-fits achieves nothing because the fact remains that OG found them and their e-fits credible. They're the experts and what they say goes.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #282 on: February 22, 2018, 06:09:59 AM »
Criticising the Smith sighting or the e-fits achieves nothing because the fact remains that OG found them and their e-fits credible. They're the experts and what they say goes.
They certainly put the emphasis on a later abduction.  The Smith's sighting was their only lead at that stage, so It was worth a try.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #283 on: February 22, 2018, 06:28:09 AM »
They certainly put the emphasis on a later abduction.  The Smith's sighting was their only lead at that stage, so It was worth a try.

It was more significant than that. They made the Tanner sighting and the Gerry/Jes meeting irrelevant, along with all those moving doors and discussions about the level of light in the bedroom.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #284 on: February 22, 2018, 07:23:01 AM »

What ever happened to, In My Opinion?