Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence

[faithlilly]

Thanks, I'm aware of that. Where does it state that blood had been identified?

Eddie alerts to cadaver odour and blood. Eddie alerted to the key fob so he was either alerting to cadaver odour or blood. Agreed ? Cadaver odour is made up of volatile organic compounds, blood of cells. QED it can’t be cadaver odour.

[Mr Gray]

Eddie alerts to cadaver odour and blood. Eddie alerted to the key fob so he was either alerting to cadaver odour or blood. Agreed ? Cadaver odour is made up of volatile organic compounds, blood of cells. QED it can’t be cadaver odour.

Could have been blood and cadaver odour on the key FOB... QED

[Robittybob1]

As keela can alert to remains so small as not to be detectable by science... What was recovered may not be what she was, alerting to

Think about it just a little more please.

[misty]

The Renault Scenic + its key were taken by the PJ on 6/8/2007.
on 7th August 2007
"At 04h51, it was verified that the dog 'marked' the area of a sandbox [bucket of sand] of the Fire
System where the car key had been concealed beneath the sand."
(http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P8/08_VOLUME_VIIIa_Page_2187.jpg)

On 8th August at lunchtime Joao Carlos returned the car (logically with key) to the McCanns)  - source Madeleine (KM book).

How did the key get sent to the FSS Birmingham for forensic testing if the McCanns had it back? Hire cars aren't rented out along with the spare key.


http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/EDDIE-KEELA.htm
Samples recovered in the car.

Between August 6th at 9.30pm and August 7th at 4am, the following samples were recovered in the grey Renault Scenic car.

snipped
9, 10 and 11: Hair

12: Car key

13: Control samples of seat fabric

All of these were handed over to Birmingham FSS for analyses.

[faithlilly]

Could have been blood and cadaver odour on the key FOB... QED

Could have been.

[faithlilly]

The Renault Scenic + its key were taken by the PJ on 6/8/2007.
on 7th August 2007
"At 04h51, it was verified that the dog 'marked' the area of a sandbox [bucket of sand] of the Fire
System where the car key had been concealed beneath the sand."
(http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P8/08_VOLUME_VIIIa_Page_2187.jpg)

On 8th August at lunchtime Joao Carlos returned the car (logically with key) to the McCanns).

How did the key get sent to the FSS Birmingham for forensic testing if the McCanns had it back? Hire cars aren't rented out along with the spare key.


http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/EDDIE-KEELA.htm
Samples recovered in the car.

Between August 6th at 9.30pm and August 7th at 4am, the following samples were recovered in the grey Renault Scenic car.

snipped
9, 10 and 11: Hair

12: Car key

13: Control samples of seat fabric

All of these were handed over to Birmingham FSS for analyses.

Shall we just stick to the point Misty ? Eddie does not alert to just the scent of blood without blood being present.

[Robittybob1]

As keela can alert to remains so small as not to be detectable by science... What was recovered may not be what she was, alerting to

Even a scientific test will have a degree of uncertainty.

[misty]

Shall we just stick to the point Misty ? Eddie does not alert to just the scent of blood without blood being present.

I'm understanding the point of the argument as long as the correct key card was being tested by the FSS.

[Robittybob1]

Could have been blood and cadaver odour on the key FOB... QED

There is no scientific test for cadaver odour.

[faithlilly]

I'm understanding the point of the argument as long as the correct key card was being tested by the FSS.

It had Gerry’s DNA on it so not sure the point you’re trying to make ?

[Mr Gray]

There is no scientific test for cadaver odour.

So nothing can be confirmed  without physical evidence... QEF

[misty]

It had Gerry’s DNA on it so not sure the pint you’re trying to make ?

The DNA sample was incomplete. Was it actually Gerry's?

[Robittybob1]

I'm understanding the point of the argument as long as the correct key card was being tested by the FSS.

Was there ever a photo of the key and key card so we know what it was like?  Could the key be separated from the fob?

[Mr Gray]

Was there ever a photo of the key and key card so we know what it was like?  Could the key be separated from the fob?

What key card

[Robittybob1]

What key card

That is right where is a photo of the object in question, was it a key, a key fob or a key card or a key ring?  Did it ever feature on the video?