According to some, there is certainly circumstantial evidence of abduction.

[Mr Gray]

Cite.  Which posters?

When I said amaral could not prove maddies death in the apartment... Which he can't... You insisted but it was merely my opinion and nothing more...
So... You for one

[Robittybob1]

Best laugh I've had today.
 

You must be having a real bad day if that was the funniest thing that happened!

[ShiningInLuz]

When I said amaral could not prove maddies death in the apartment... Which he can't... You insistedbitveas merely my opinion and nothing more...
So... You for one

Can you back this with a cite?  I can't remember claiming Amaral proved anything.

And your opinion is merely that.

So no proof, merely your opinion.

[Robittybob1]

Can you back this with a cite?  I can't remember claiming Amaral proved anything.

And your opinion is merely that.

So no proof, merely your opinion.

I think that is the gist of what Davel is saying: "It is his opinion"

[faithlilly]

We've been here before though haven't we?

From DCI
Well someone is! Why would he have been paid for by the McCann's?

ALEX WOOLFALL (Bell-Pottinger Group - engaged by Wark Warner)

Within two days after Madeleine’s disappearance, the holiday firm Mark Warner had sent a crisis management team to Portugal. It included Alex Woolfall from Bell Pottinger, the public relations company. Alex Woolfall is Head of Issues and Crisis Management for the Bell Pottinger Group. Woolfall, who has 20 years experience in PR, spent the next two weeks advising the family on how to keep the media interested. http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=6114.msg224734#msg224734

Jean-Pierre said,
Oh dear.  You seem to have fallen for it!   

Before dignifying this claim with any semblence of the "the trust" - could you just provide the entry from the leverson enquiry, and a note of where the fund made a payment of £500K?

Given the fund is audited by a very reputable firm, it should be easy to identify that very considerable sum.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=6114.msg224719#msg224719

As the fund accounts are somewhat less than transparent who knows what heading the money may have been filed under.

As to the truth of the quote from Owen Jones, has Lord Bell ever refuted his claim ?

[ShiningInLuz]

I think that is the gist of what Davel is saying: "It is his opinion"

His opinion about Amaral is his opinion, and I have no interest whatsoever in that.

When someone claims I supported Amaral's view, it is a different matter.

Forum rules require a cite for such an allegation.

No cite will be forthcoming, because there isn't one.

 

[Mr Gray]

His opinion about Amaral is his opinion, and I have no interest whatsoever in that.

When someone claims I supported Amaral's view, it is a different matter.

Forum rules require a cite for such an allegation.

No cite will be forthcoming, because there isn't one.

 

You claimed that my factual post the amaral was unable to prove maddue died in the apartment was merely my opinion and not fact... Thereby supporting amarals claim

[ShiningInLuz]

You claimed that my factual post the amaral was unable to prove maddue died in the apartment was merely my opinion and not fact... Thereby supporting amarals claim

You are now claiming your opinion as a factual post.

[Mr Gray]

Can you back this with a cite?  I can't remember claiming Amaral proved anything.

And your opinion is merely that.

So no proof, merely your opinion.

YOU CANT REMEMBER AMARAL CLAIMING HE HAD PROVED ASNYTHING......do you read the thread...thats where my claim started ...with a cite...a transcript of amaral from morais site...where he claimed he could prove maddie died in the apartment...your knowledge of the case has some massive holes

[Mr Gray]

You are now claiming your opinion as a factual post.

Its not my opinion...amaral claimed he would prove maddie doied in the apartment and produced the evidence....he cannot prove such...that is fact not opinion...part of his proof relied on two dogs taht had helped to solve 200 cases....thats rubbish as well...not opinion...fact

[Mr Gray]

amaral actually stated this...

23.29 – The investigation uses two very special dogs that are used by the English and North American police, that have successfully solved over 200 cases.

so is it just my opinion it isnt true...have these two dogs solved 200 cases...no wonder the portuguese people think maddie died in the apartment

[ShiningInLuz]

YOU CANT REMEMBER AMARAL CLAIMING HE HAD PROVED ASNYTHING......do you read the thread...thats where my claim started ...with a cite...a transcript of amaral from morais site...where he claimed he could prove maddie died in the apartment...your knowledge of the case has some massive holes

Re-read my post.  It would help if you comprehended what I said.

It was not about Amaral.  It was about me and you.

[Mr Gray]

Re-read my post.  It would help if you comprehended what I said.

It was not about Amaral.  It was about me and you.

Perhaps you could read the thread.. It would help if you could comprehend
Time to stop the sniping.. Methinks

[ShiningInLuz]

Perhaps you could read the thread.. It would help if you could comprehend
Time to stop the sniping.. Methinks

So still no cite?

I thought not.

[Eleanor]

Then perhaps he would desist from claiming that he can. Or that he has!

It's lowering the credibility of the forum. IMO, of course.

You would have to go some to do that.