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Offline Caroline

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #105 on: March 07, 2020, 01:46:11 PM »
Rather than having no remorse (and he might have no remorse, I don't know), I think he sincerely believes that he is innocent. The big question is, does he have a mental illness of some sort that makes him think that, or is he really innocent?

As far as psychopathy is concerned, what I really wanted to know was, whether he had been diagnosed by a professional. As far as I can see, he hasn't.  I don't think any of us can diagnose him (unless someone on here is a psychiatrist, AND has tested him, in which case, I apologise!!).

So why is he evasive? He is deliberately selective about which questions he answers. He knows he’s guilty alright.

Offline APRIL

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #106 on: March 07, 2020, 02:01:46 PM »
Rather than having no remorse (and he might have no remorse, I don't know), I think he sincerely believes that he is innocent. The big question is, does he have a mental illness of some sort that makes him think that, or is he really innocent?

As far as psychopathy is concerned, what I really wanted to know was, whether he had been diagnosed by a professional. As far as I can see, he hasn't.  I don't think any of us can diagnose him (unless someone on here is a psychiatrist, AND has tested him, in which case, I apologise!!).

As far as psychopathy is concerned, we can't rely on tests alone because we know that psychopaths can easily pass them. We can listen to what professionals have said of him, though. It's doubtful that their opinions will be 100% conclusive, but it would be interesting to know how high is the percentage one way or the other.

Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #107 on: March 08, 2020, 07:36:18 AM »
I haven't seen this claim about the polygraphs?


I’ve seen it stated many times by his “team”

I shall find one and bring it over

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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #108 on: March 08, 2020, 07:39:07 AM »
https://jeremybamber.org/psychological-reports/

There's no evidence JB is/was a psychopath.  It isn't something that waxes and wanes either.





The consultant psychiatrist who assessed him when on remand diagnosed him as being a psychopath — and even said he believed Jeremy was guilty of the murders before the trial

I’ll find it...
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #109 on: March 08, 2020, 07:42:09 AM »
It isn't necessary for someone to be a psychopath to kill.


In which case it’s pointless him religiously trying to fool people into thinking he isn’t a psychopath...
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #110 on: March 08, 2020, 07:44:29 AM »
Rather than having no remorse (and he might have no remorse, I don't know), I think he sincerely believes that he is innocent. The big question is, does he have a mental illness of some sort that makes him think that, or is he really innocent?

As far as psychopathy is concerned, what I really wanted to know was, whether he had been diagnosed by a professional. As far as I can see, he hasn't.  I don't think any of us can diagnose him (unless someone on here is a psychiatrist, AND has tested him, in which case, I apologise!!).


For fear of boring people by repeating myself, Jeremy was diagnosed with psychopathy by the consultant psychiatrist when he was on remand in prison
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Offline APRIL

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #111 on: March 08, 2020, 08:01:47 AM »

For fear of boring people by repeating myself, Jeremy was diagnosed with psychopathy by the consultant psychiatrist when he was on remand in prison


That is my understanding, also.

Offline Caroline

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #112 on: March 08, 2020, 12:52:45 PM »

For fear of boring people by repeating myself, Jeremy was diagnosed with psychopathy by the consultant psychiatrist when he was on remand in prison

Yes he was but supporters argue that this psychiatrist didn't actually see Bamber, I don't know where they get that from.

Offline APRIL

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #113 on: March 08, 2020, 02:04:43 PM »
Yes he was but supporters argue that this psychiatrist didn't actually see Bamber, I don't know where they get that from.


It's entirely possible that some supporters picked, to use an example in their favour, a psychiatrist who simply had a gut instinct. However, the person I'm thinking of most certainly did see him. How, in God's name could one do a pre-trial assessment without doing so?

Offline Caroline

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #114 on: March 08, 2020, 02:55:11 PM »

It's entirely possible that some supporters picked, to use an example in their favour, a psychiatrist who simply had a gut instinct. However, the person I'm thinking of most certainly did see him. How, in God's name could one do a pre-trial assessment without doing so?

I’m sure he/she did - pointless engaging them otherwise.

Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #115 on: March 09, 2020, 05:35:24 AM »
Their claims are ludicrous

Of course the psychiatrist saw Jeremy

It’s  mandatory when someone’s on remand for murder to establish what their mental health is like and if they’re fit for trial.

They’re just trying to hush it up
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #116 on: April 18, 2020, 10:29:16 AM »
Has Bamber been tested recently or had a brain scan?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #117 on: April 18, 2020, 10:31:31 AM »
Their claims are ludicrous

Of course the psychiatrist saw Jeremy

It’s  mandatory when someone’s on remand for murder to establish what their mental health is like and if they’re fit for trial.

They’re just trying to hush it up

This is what men like Bamber do. They then get other so called ‘experts’ to test them later on in an attempt to present a different human being to the one they presented as back then

One of the podcasts here https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p071cll5/episodes/downloads has Dr GudJonsson discussing the Cardiff 3 case and giving his opinions. Even people like him can be duped by men like Bamber.
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Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Caroline

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #118 on: April 18, 2020, 11:56:50 AM »
Has Bamber been tested recently or had a brain scan?

No, and I bet he was never agree to a scan.

Offline Nicholas

Re: Why has Bamber campaigned to say he isn't a psychopath?
« Reply #119 on: April 18, 2020, 12:17:45 PM »
No, and I bet he was never agree to a scan.

The problem with a scan is on who’s ‘expert’ opinion he’d rely on to interpret it
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation