The name calling which marks this case out.

[Vertigo Swirl]

In your opinion and in their opinion the Portuguese police fell short. Whether those opinions are valid or not I don't know. I'm not concerned about Kate McCann at all because I don't know her. If one of my relatives or friends chose to share similar thoughts so frankly four years after the event I would be concerned that they were making themselves look vindictive. The GNR officers on and off duty came to search for her daughter all night and carried on for seven days. Were they ever thanked for their efforts?

If one of your relatives or friends was badly treated by the police (in their view) do you think expressing how they felt at the time about the way they were handled would be just them being vindictive, and not simply them expressing an honestly held view of their feelings?  Do you view every strongly worded public criticism of police behaviour as simply vindictive? 

[Miss Taken Identity]

If you thought your child was abducted and everyone just carries on as if she has wandered off, and in the long run it appears your thoughts are proven right because the child is not found, I don't see the need to be grateful for the unsuccessful searches.

not only were they not grateful, they were scathing and mean via 'family' sauces...


whoa,  what? if you think your daughter was abducted? Are you now claiming they didn't know on their behalf because I read it as their daughter was abducted but was only reported as missing.  why the mix up? why search for a abducted child, when you have no idea what time this could have taken place.

OK let us see what the Uk police would have done, if this happened in the Isle or White or some other holiday resort.
1. let the parents and friends wander about all over a suspected crime scene?
2 let them  have a get together to collaborate a time line on a missing child scrap book? AFTER claiming they checked every half hour? ppft

3. wait until they felt a wee bit better to answer questions?- but have chatty chats with high ranking political figures and the pope no less.
4 allow  the gobby siblings make scurrilous accusations that no one was searching- which was a lie.
5 tell social services to 'mind their own business' as these are doctors dontcha know!

The whole abduction is fantasy as it was told .   The Pj should have arrested them, and given them no time to 'think' up scenarios that didn't add up. IMO

[Miss Taken Identity]

No one here is offended by the way Muslims pray, what a very strange misinterpretation of what has been said.

No Misinterpretation here...
If no one was offended, then why are some supporters whining about someone saying they fell and looked like praying arabs? like that was a nasty thing to say?

As I mentioned, they only got this distressed in front of the police... weird!!!,  they didn't do that at the feet of the pope!

[ShiningInLuz]

If you thought your child was abducted and everyone just carries on as if she has wandered off, and in the long run it appears your thoughts are proven right because the child is not found, I don't see the need to be grateful for the unsuccessful searches.

I find this very odd.

May I suggest that if you ever make it to Luz, telling the citizens that their time & effort in searching for Madeleine is not deserving of gratitude is hardly likely to endear you to the locals.

[Robittybob1]

No Misinterpretation here...
If no one was offended, then why are some supporters whining about someone saying they fell and looked like praying arabs? like that was a nasty thing to say?

As I mentioned, they only got this distressed in front of the police... weird!!!,  they didn't do that at the feet of the pope!

It seems to be the context of how it was said that makes to the McCanns weird for adopting this position.  It being described as like praying Arabs, which in turns makes the phrase sound like a insult.

OK the McCanns reverently and humbly humbled themselves like Arabs in prayer.  It seemed like the right thing to do in the circumstance.

[Miss Taken Identity]

I find this very odd.

May I suggest that if you ever make it to Luz, telling the citizens that their time effort in searching for Madeleine is not deserving of gratitude is hardly likely to endear you to the locals.

Well said SIL!

[Robittybob1]

I find this very odd.

May I suggest that if you ever make it to Luz, telling the citizens that their time effort in searching for Madeleine is not deserving of gratitude is hardly likely to endear you to the locals.

We are looking at it from Kate's point of view.  She thinks her child has been abducted and no effort is being made to investigate that. 
IMO Madeleine woke and wandered so I think the searching was essential.   It all depends on your point of view.

[Miss Taken Identity]

It seems to be the context of how it was said that makes to the McCanns weird for adopting this position.  It being described as like praying Arabs, which in turns makes the phrase sound like a insult.

OK the McCanns reverently and humbly humbled themselves like Arabs in prayer.  It seemed like the right thing to do in the circumstance.

How it was said?  So someone was offended because of the WAY it was said. praying like  an arab, swimming like a fish, laughing like a hyena?  all insults if you want to be offended, the trick is to stop being offended about nothing at all.

Their behaviour was strange, weird  why do that in front of the police and not in the TAPAS  bar when they were first told about the 'abduction' AND the twins slept through this racket? I thought Kate said she didn't want to wake them up by shouting to the others that MBM was missing/ had been abducted? change of heart eh in front of the police who may have arrested them?

[Miss Taken Identity]

We are looking at it from Kate's point of view.  She thinks her child has been abducted and no effort is being made to investigate that. 
IMO Madeleine woke and wandered so I think the searching was essential.   It all depends on your point of view.

YES, and So  what evidence did she and her family provide to show this was the case? NONE!

[Vertigo Swirl]

No Misinterpretation here...
If no one was offended, then why are some supporters whining about someone saying they fell and looked like praying arabs? like that was a nasty thing to say?

As I mentioned, they only got this distressed in front of the police... weird!!!,  they didn't do that at the feet of the pope!

No one is whining, in fact that is a rather pejorative term to use IMO, did you intend to be insulting?  If you read people's replies on this subject I think it's fully explanatory what the views are on this subject and none of them is that people object to the way Muslims pray - that is quite an absurd deduction to draw from what has been written IMO. 
They only got distressed in front of the police?  Do you have a cite for them not being distressed at any other time? 

[Robittybob1]

How it was said?  So someone was offended because of the WAY it was said. praying like  an arab, swimming like a fish, laughing like a hyena?  all insults if you want to be offended, the trick is to stop being offended about nothing at all.

Their behaviour was strange, weird  why do that in front of the police and not in the TAPAS  bar when they were first told about the 'abduction' AND the twins slept through this racket? I thought Kate said she didn't want to wake them up by shouting to the others that MBM was missing/ had been abducted? change of heart eh in front of the police who may have arrested them?

When I first read Silvia's statement I thought she comes across as being prejudiced against Arabs because of their  form of prayer.  Do most people think the same way who knows, but describing the GNR as Tweedledee and Tweedledum is rather comical rather than prejudiced to me.

[Robittybob1]

YES, and So  what evidence did she and her family provide to show this was the case? NONE!

Don't bring "her family" into it.  I'm talking about Kate's point of view.

[Vertigo Swirl]

of course, not all Arabs are Muslims so at the very least it was a somewhat ignorant stereotype.

[Miss Taken Identity]

No one is whining, in fact that is a rather pejorative term to use IMO, did you intend to be insulting?  If you read people's replies on this subject I think it's fully explanatory what the views are on this subject and none of them is that people object to the way Muslims pray - that is quite an absurd deduction to draw from what has been written IMO. 
They only got distressed in front of the police?  Do you have a cite for them not being distressed at any other time?

Please stop trying to wriggle the contents of my words to suit your interpretation. Thank you.

 it is very clear to me that some people were complaining that the terminology was  indeed insulting.
 
cite?  I can find no witness comments on the distressed state as was described by SB and PJ officers who also saw this behaviour before the arrival of the police. They did not fall down like praying arabs, screaming etc in the tapas bar, or back at the flat, or in the street. So I cannot cite they did this, as it isn't documented by anyone who was there. Can you provide a cite that they did behave like this before the PJ arrived?

[Mr Gray]

of course, not all Arabs are Muslims so at the very least it was a somewhat ignorant stereotype.

I think its a good marker of the standard of the evidence that amaral used to prove maddie died in 5a and her parents covered up her death