It has never been explained why Julian Totman was walking the wrong way?

[Robittybob1]

Had you read the link I provided instead of O'Donnell's sugary article you would have discovered that Jwz Wilkins approached the PJ on 4th to tell them about his 'Rasta man'.

I would be interested to know if the Tanner sighting was known about in May 2007. It wasn't reported by the media as far as I can discover until late 2007.

The PJ officer was Manuel Pinho an Inspector.  "Officer responsible: Manuel Pinho, Inspector"

[ShiningInLuz]

Had you read the link I provided instead of O'Donnell's sugary article you would have discovered that Jwz Wilkins approached the PJ on 4th to tell them about his 'Rasta man'.

I would be interested to know if the Tanner sighting was known about in May 2007. It wasn't reported by the media as far as I can discover until late 2007.

That is the nub of the question.

If the Totmans stayed for roughly a week after Madeleine disappeared, was there a mechanism by which they could have learned of Tannerman in that time, in order to make their information known to the GNR or PJ?

[G-Unit]

That is the nub of the question.

If the Totmans stayed for roughly a week after Madeleine disappeared, was there a mechanism by which they could have learned of Tannerman in that time, in order to make their information known to the GNR or PJ?

It is a key question because Dr Totman needed to know certain details in order to decide that Jane might have seen him;

That Jane had seen a man.
That her description of that man's clothes matched the clothes Totman wore.
That the time of Jane's sighting matched the time he was out carrying his daughter around.

If those details were known in May 2007 then in my opinion the media would have heard of them.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Had you read the link I provided instead of O'Donnell's sugary article you would have discovered that Jwz Wilkins approached the PJ on 4th to tell them about his 'Rasta man'.

I would be interested to know if the Tanner sighting was known about in May 2007. It wasn't reported by the media as far as I can discover until late 2007.

if an article is sugary does that mean it should be taken with a pinch of salt?

[Vertigo Swirl]

It is a key question because Dr Totman needed to know certain details in order to decide that Jane might have seen him;

That Jane had seen a man.
That her description of that man's clothes matched the clothes Totman wore.
That the time of Jane's sighting matched the time he was out carrying his daughter around.

If those details were known in May 2007 then in my opinion the media would have heard of them.

I would think he would almost certainly have known about Jane Tanner’s sighting, if he had been on speaking terms with some of the Tapas group and had stayed on in the resort for days after the disappearance.

[faithlilly]

I would think he would almost certainly have known about Jane Tanner’s sighting, if he had been on speaking terms with some of the Tapas group and had stayed on in the resort for days after the disappearance.

If he had been talking to the tapas group and they had told him about Tanner’s sighting wouldn’t he, and they, have put two and two together and conclude that he may have been the man she saw ? Why didn’t they approach Tanner and put this to her ? Further as she would have been aware of Totman from watching the men play tennis why didn’t she recognise him as her sighting ?

[slartibartfast]

If he had been talking to the tapas group and they had told him about Tanner’s sighting wouldn’t he, and they, have put two and two together and conclude that he may have been the man she saw ? Why didn’t they approach Tanner and put this to her ? Further as she would have been aware of Totman from watching the men play tennis why didn’t she recognise him as her sighting ?

Beat me to it.

[G-Unit]

I would think he would almost certainly have known about Jane Tanner’s sighting, if he had been on speaking terms with some of the Tapas group and had stayed on in the resort for days after the disappearance.

So you think they ignored Judicial Secrecy straight away and talked about the case to other holidaymakers immediately?

The first media reports seem to have surfaced in November 2007;

A close friend of Kate and Gerry McCann has broken ranks to tell for the first time what happened on the night Madeleine McCann vanished.

She defied the Portuguese authorities who have told Mr and Mrs McCann - and those with them on the night Madeleine vanished - not to talk about the case.

It is not yet clear if any action will be taken against Miss Tanner for speaking out.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1569668/McCann-friend-saw-Madeleines-abductor.html

[Vertigo Swirl]

If he had been talking to the tapas group and they had told him about Tanner’s sighting wouldn’t he, and they, have put two and two together and conclude that he may have been the man she saw ? Why didn’t they approach Tanner and put this to her ? Further as she would have been aware of Totman from watching the men play tennis why didn’t she recognise him as her sighting ?

I presume because she simply didn’t recognise him from her position in the street when she saw him, if indeed she was that familiar with his appearance beforehand.  As for your first point, yes I agree you would have thought so and I don’tt have an answer for it, unless of course my speculation  is wrong and Totman did not have any contact with the group after the disappearance or perhaps they were all bound by judicial secrecy not to discuss JT’s sighting? 

[Vertigo Swirl]

So you think they ignored Judicial Secrecy straight away and talked about the case to other holidaymakers immediately?

The first media reports seem to have surfaced in November 2007;

A close friend of Kate and Gerry McCann has broken ranks to tell for the first time what happened on the night Madeleine McCann vanished.

She defied the Portuguese authorities who have told Mr and Mrs McCann - and those with them on the night Madeleine vanished - not to talk about the case.

It is not yet clear if any action will be taken against Miss Tanner for speaking out.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1569668/McCann-friend-saw-Madeleines-abductor.html

Yeah, you’re probably right.

[faithlilly]

I presume because she simply didn’t recognise him from her position in the street when she saw him, if indeed she was that familiar with his appearance beforehand.  As for your first point, yes I agree you would have thought so and I don’tt have an answer for it, unless of course my speculation  is wrong and Totman did not have any contact with the group after the disappearance or perhaps they were all bound by judicial secrecy not to discuss JT’s sighting?

Wasn’t Totman playing tennis with the tapas men that night while the women watched ? Is it really credible that she saw him, even side on, a couple of hours later and didn’t recognise him?  And what of the ‘he didn’t look like a tourist’ and ‘ his clothes looked foreign ‘ ( to paraphrase) ?

So to to recap if we are to believe Tanner saw Crecheman at the same time as seeing Gerry/Wilkins we must also believe that a) Gerry/Wilkins failed to notice Tanner walk by them on a narrow pavement and b) Tanner failed to recognise an individual she would have seen playing tennis ( at the very least ) throughout the week.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Wasn’t Totman playing tennis with the tapas men that night while the women watched ? Is it really credible that she saw him, even side on, a couple of hours later and didn’t recognise him?  And what of the ‘he didn’t look like a tourist’ and ‘ his clothes looked foreign ‘ ( to paraphrase) ?

So to to recap if we are to believe Tanner saw Crecheman at the same time as seeing Gerry/Wilkins we must also believe that a) Gerry/Wilkins failed to notice Tanner walk by them on a narrow pavement and b) Tanner failed to recognise an individual she would have seen playing tennis ( at the very least ) throughout the week.

Either
a) yes that is exactly what happened
b) Jane Tanner didn't see Totman but another man carrying a child at more or less the same time who happened to look like Totman
c) Jane Tanner saw Totman, knew exactly who he was.
d) Totman was nowhere near the apartment carrying a child that night.

Pick one and we'll take it from there. 

[jassi]

I'll go with c, but won't discuss it as it will no doubt be considered libelous 

[ShiningInLuz]

It is a key question because Dr Totman needed to know certain details in order to decide that Jane might have seen him;

That Jane had seen a man.
That her description of that man's clothes matched the clothes Totman wore.
That the time of Jane's sighting matched the time he was out carrying his daughter around.

If those details were known in May 2007 then in my opinion the media would have heard of them.

Further, that Totman did not make this alleged match known to Kate, Gerry, the T7, or the media, until he was 'found' by OG in 2013.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I'll go with c, but won't discuss it as it will no doubt be considered libelous 

OK, let's go with C until we're told off, receive penalty points on our forum licenses etc.

The first question I would pose to those who think it's C is  - why?  What does she gain from this? (OK that's 2 questions).
The second question I would pose is - having seen the person, and knowing who he was, why would she knowing that there is a) the possibility he saw her and b) even if he didn't see her, would know that it was him she saw at that time and in all likelihood would come forward and tell the police?