Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?

[Vertigo Swirl]

And when the people they paid came up with no viable leads don’t you think that should have been questioned?

And you know they weren't how exactly?

[Brietta]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1231757/Madeleine-McCann-investigator-didnt-listen-ANY-tip-offs-given-hotline--squandered-500-000.html

Oh dear ... dredging the bottom of the barrel there I think ...

Snip
Kevin Halligen, who claimed to have experience in the British secret services, was arrested last week in an Oxford hotel after an FBI manhunt over an unrelated £1.3million fraud case in America.

His investigations company, Oakley International, was taken on in March last year by the Find Madeleine Fund and her parents Kate and Gerry McCann.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1231757/Madeleine-McCann-investigator-didnt-listen-ANY-tip-offs-given-hotline--squandered-500-000.html

  ...  and one wonders why there might have been a loss of confidence in Oakley International for which the McCanns have been denigrated ??

[faithlilly]

And you know they weren't how exactly?

Because the practice went on for months and months. Besides Kate had ample opportunity in her book to detail how they took Oakley to task when no leads were being followed. Interestingly she didn’t. In fact when Oakley did come up with one important conclusion, that the Smithman lead should be followed rather than Tannerman they simply ignored their professional advice.

[faithlilly]

Oh dear ... dredging the bottom of the barrel there I think ...

Snip
Kevin Halligen, who claimed to have experience in the British secret services, was arrested last week in an Oxford hotel after an FBI manhunt over an unrelated £1.3million fraud case in America.

His investigations company, Oakley International, was taken on in March last year by the Find Madeleine Fund and her parents Kate and Gerry McCann.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1231757/Madeleine-McCann-investigator-didnt-listen-ANY-tip-offs-given-hotline--squandered-500-000.html

  ...  and one wonders why there might have been a loss of confidence in Oakley International for which the McCanns have been denigrated ??

That’s the point. There seems to have been no loss of confidence in Oakley for months and months while there was no information coming forward.

[Brietta]

That’s the point. There seems to have been no loss of confidence in Oakley for months and months while there was no information coming forward.

That statement requires a cite.

NB: Your opinion is inaccurate according to   http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9960.msg479984#msg479984

I think you should amend your post to suit ... and remember to check your facts in future prior to posting on the forum.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Because the practice went on for months and months. Besides Kate had ample opportunity in her book to detail how they took Oakley to task when no leads were being followed. Interestingly she didn’t. In fact when Oakley did come up with one important conclusion, that the Smithman lead should be followed rather than Tannerman they simply ignored their professional advice.

"The first and second phases of the contract ran fairly smoothly.  Oakley had put in place systems to gather, collate, prioritize and follow up the information coming in as a result of the appeals Gerry and I made around the first anniversary of Madeleine's abduction.  There is little doubt that at that stage progress was being made.

During the third phase, however, we began to have concerns,  Feedback appeared to be less forthcoming and contact with certain members of the Oakley team dropped off.  At first we couldn't be sure whether this was a manifestation of the inevitble waning motivation I've mentioned or a more troubling problem.  Rumours about Halligen prompted us to make enquiries before we decided whether or not we should extend our contract with Oakley.  To cut a long story short we decided not to.  The termination of the contract in September 2008 , was quite acrimonious, and unfortunately, that was not the end of it" - Kate from her book.

[Vertigo Swirl]

That’s the point. There seems to have been no loss of confidence in Oakley for months and months while there was no information coming forward.

Untrue as my previous post demonstrates.

[faithlilly]

That statement requires a cite.

From Madeleine.


‘We had one particularly bad experience with a man named Kevin Halligen (or Richard, as we knew him). Halligen was the CEO of a private-investigation firm called Oakley International which was hired by Madeleine’s Fund for six months from the end of March 2008. Oakley’s proposal and overall strategy were streets ahead of all the others we’d considered and the company came highly recommended. As the sums of money involved were pretty hefty, we agreed that our contract with them would be split into three phases with a break clause at the end of each phase. This gave us an opportunity to terminate the contract at any of these points if we wished to do so without incurring financial penalties. An independent consultant was also employed by the fund to liaise with Oakley and oversee the work they were doing.

The first and second phases of the contract ran fairly smoothly. Oakley had put in place systems to gather, collate, prioritize and follow up the information coming in as a result of appeals Gerry and I made around the first anniversary of Madeleine’s abduction. There is little doubt that at that stage progress was being made.’

According to the Mail none of the messages left on the helpline were being listened. Didn’t the McCanns question the lack of feedback ?

[faithlilly]

"The first and second phases of the contract ran fairly smoothly.  Oakley had put in place systems to gather, collate, prioritize and follow up the information coming in as a result of the appeals Gerry and I made around the first anniversary of Madeleine's abduction.  There is little doubt that at that stage progress was being made.

During the third phase, however, we began to have concerns,  Feedback appeared to be less forthcoming and contact with certain members of the Oakley team dropped off.  At first we couldn't be sure whether this was a manifestation of the inevitble waning motivation I've mentioned or a more troubling problem.  Rumours about Halligen prompted us to make enquiries before we decided whether or not we should extend our contract with Oakley.  To cut a long story short we decided not to.  The termination of the contract in September 2008 , was quite acrimonious, and unfortunately, that was not the end of it" - Kate from her book.

Progress being made ? How ? No leads were being followed via the phone line and the files had only just been made public when everything went squiffy.

[Brietta]

Progress being made ? How ? No leads were being followed via the phone line and the files had only just been made public when everything went squiffy.

You really will not accept when you have posted in error.  In my opinion the McCanns appear to have sussed Halligan in 2008 ... long before the FBI got onto his case if what I have read of his lifestyle in America is accurate.

[Robittybob1]

A cite needs to support the statement being made.

[Alice Purjorick]

The evidence is straight from the horse’s mouth so to speak, from the woman who was there, in her book.  If you wish to dismiss it, that’s your choice.

By that do you mean the policeman?

[faithlilly]

You really will not accept when you have posted in error.  In my opinion the McCanns appear to have sussed Halligan in 2008 ... long before the FBI got onto his case if what I have read of his lifestyle in America is accurate.

No I do not accept that I’m wrong because I’m not. For, I assume, at least four months Oakley cannot have been passing anything of relevance to the directors of the fund. They were not listening to the phone calls from the helpline and the file was only made public in July, right about the time the directors are alleged to start having their doubts about Oakley so they could not have been following leads from that. So where was the ‘progress’ coming from that Kate claims ?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Progress being made ? How ? No leads were being followed via the phone line and the files had only just been made public when everything went squiffy.

Are you telling us that the McCanns knew that Halligen was deliberately not following leads or listening to calls?

[Vertigo Swirl]

By that do you mean the policeman?

No, did not the rest of my post give you a clue regarding who I meant?