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Disappeared and Abducted Children and Young Adults => Madeleine McCann (3) disappeared from her parent's holiday apartment at Ocean Club, Praia da Luz, Portugal on 3 May 2007. No trace of her has ever been found. => Topic started by: stephen25000 on March 29, 2016, 10:30:09 AM
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On this forum we hear a lot of bluster from certain parties about the PJ not 'properly' searching for Madeleine, which is not true.
Now, how many on here have actually searched for Madeleine, that does not include typing on a keyboard.
For the record, I haven't , just like the vast majority of people around the world. I don't recall any foreign newspapers recounting tales of people searching around the world.
The mccanns of course, had a brief 'search' the following morning following the disappearance, and that was that.
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what is the point of this thread?
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Living in France I am always aware of the possibility that Madeleine could be in France, so I do bear this in mind when out and about.
But there are large areas of sparsely inhabited countryside where it would be quite easy to hide a child who actually lives a relatively normal life. These areas would be impossible for me to actively search.
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what is the point of this thread?
The thread gives you an opportunity to list all the physical searching done by members of the group on 5th May.
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Let's look at 29th May 2007.
The PJ flew in Met phone experts to work on the huge amounts of phone data the PJ had already obtained. The PJ also did searches at Lagos Marina relating to 4 boats. And the PJ did much more too.
Meanwhile, the other search was concentrating on searching every nook and cranny of this object, in fact if you look carefully you can see a search operative emerging wearing a special top designed to radiate the excess heat generated by intensive searching. http://bit.ly/1WUbIbm
Has any other person working with the parents ever done real physical searching like this?
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Let's look at 29th May 2007.
The PJ flew in Met phone experts to work on the huge amounts of phone data the PJ had already obtained. The PJ also did searches at Lagos Marina relating to 4 boats. And the PJ did much more too.
Meanwhile, the other search was concentrating on searching every nook and cranny of this object, in fact if you look carefully you can see a search operative emerging wearing a special top designed to radiate the excess heat generated by intensive searching. http://bit.ly/1WUbIbm
Has any other PR person working with the parents ever done real physical searching like this?
The OP actually reads
"On this forum we hear a lot of bluster from certain parties about the PJ not 'properly' searching for Madeleine, which is not true.
Now, how many on here have actually searched for Madeleine, that does not include typing on a keyboard."
That is the reason why I asked what is the point of this thread.
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The OP actually reads
"On this forum we hear a lot of bluster from certain parties about the PJ not 'properly' searching for Madeleine, which is not true.
Now, how many on here have actually searched for Madeleine, that does not include typing on a keyboard."
That is the reason why I asked what is the point of this thread.
I've observed a lot of hot air on this forum about 'searching'.
It is abundantly clear, even to the casual observer looking up the facts, that Madeleine was searched for extensively, no matter what the mccanns or some of their supporters have claimed to the contrary.
So jp, in the real world, when and how have you searched for Madeleine ?
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Let's look at 29th May 2007.
The PJ flew in Met phone experts to work on the huge amounts of phone data the PJ had already obtained. The PJ also did searches at Lagos Marina relating to 4 boats. And the PJ did much more too.
Meanwhile, the other search was concentrating on searching every nook and cranny of this object, in fact if you look carefully you can see a search operative emerging wearing a special top designed to radiate the excess heat generated by intensive searching. http://bit.ly/1WUbIbm
Has any other person working with the parents ever done real physical searching like this?
It was a rather innovative idea, don't you think? Always a chance one might find a stray child at the Vatican, especially one with a name sounding like Magdalene.
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It was a rather innovative idea, don't you think? Always a chance one might find a stray child at the Vatican, especially one with a name sounding like Magdalene.
Yes, and by putting up with the discomfort of borrowing a plane instead of taking a scheduled flight, the region around 30.000 feet could be searched more efficiently.
Meanwhile I think we should have a very special mention here for the numerous volunteers who spent day after day searching the surrounding countryside. And that includes Stephen Taylor and Colin Sahlke, who gave up their jobs and sold their possessions to go to PDL and search. I do hope they got a quick wave of thanks from the windows of the multi-million-dollar private jet as it flew off.
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Not me.
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So apart from Eleanor's response, have any mccann supporters actually physically searched for Madeleine ?
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Not me.
Nor I.
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I seriously might have gone (actually considered it) to help the parents search the town and surrounding countryside but had not enough money for the air fare etc.
If I'd known a billionaire was making a jet available to the search I would have rung him to pick me up.
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I've observed a lot of hot air on this forum about 'searching'.
It is abundantly clear, even to the casual observer looking up the facts, that Madeleine was searched for extensively, no matter what the mccanns or some of their supporters have claimed to the contrary.
So jp, in the real world, when and how have you searched for Madeleine ?
Sorry Stephen - First of all, I have never at any time suggested that the PJ did not do a very thorough job in searching for Madeleine.
Secondly, I am not going to get involved in your "passive aggressive" games. 8(0(*
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I have searched for Madeleine. Even in zones OG searched later.
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Sorry Stephen - First of all, I have never at any time suggested that the PJ did not do a very thorough job in searching for Madeleine.
Secondly, I am not going to get involved in your "passive aggressive" games. 8(0(*
This is no game JP.
The mccanns and many of their supporters have claimed Madeleine was never searched for thoroughly.
At least you admit she was searched for, that is a start.
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I have searched for Madeleine. Even in zones OG searched later.
What were your parameters for searching Heriberto ?
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Following one of several lines. Madeleine killed by the abductor and hidden in the zone delimited by Prainha, Mata Porcas, and the small hill of wasted land.
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Following one of several lines. Madeleine killed by the abductor and hidden in the zone delimited by Prainha, Mata Porcas, and the small hill of wasted land.
For those who don't speak portuguese, Prainha = the small beach west of fort
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Yes, and by putting up with the discomfort of borrowing a plane instead of taking a scheduled flight, the region around 30.000 feet could be searched more efficiently.
Meanwhile I think we should have a very special mention here for the numerous volunteers who spent day after day searching the surrounding countryside. And that includes Stephen Taylor and Colin Sahlke, who gave up their jobs and sold their possessions to go to PDL and search. I do hope they got a quick wave of thanks from the windows of the multi-million-dollar private jet as it flew off.
Post of the week
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Yes, and by putting up with the discomfort of borrowing a plane instead of taking a scheduled flight, the region around 30.000 feet could be searched more efficiently.
Meanwhile I think we should have a very special mention here for the numerous volunteers who spent day after day searching the surrounding countryside. And that includes Stephen Taylor and Colin Sahlke, who gave up their jobs and sold their possessions to go to PDL and search. I do hope they got a quick wave of thanks from the windows of the multi-million-dollar private jet as it flew off.
Did the McCann's request the jet? No, they didn't it was offered to them, why throw the offer back in the fact of Phillip Green who wanted to help? -
The visit to Rome involved the use of a private jet supplied by the retail multimillionaire Sir Philip Green. While the McCanns realised that using the plane could generate negative reactions they felt they had to be consistent in accepting every genuine offer of help, no matter how large or small. Private jets, they pointed out, shorten considerably the time they have to spend away from the twins.
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I seriously might have gone (actually considered it) to help the parents search the town and surrounding countryside but had not enough money for the air fare etc.
If I'd known a billionaire was making a jet available to the search I would have rung him to pick me up.
Again you mention the private jet that was offered to the McCann's. Would you have swapped places with them? No, of course not, do you think they would prefer to be taking up offers of a private jet to having their daughter back with them?
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So apart from Eleanor's response, have any mccann supporters actually physically searched for Madeleine ?
Bit of a silly topic isn't it.
The only way anyone can search is to look out for a Madeleine look a like whilst on holiday abroad which is what I do.
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Bit of a silly topic isn't it.
The only way anyone can search is to look out for a Madeleine look a like whilst on holiday abroad which is what I do.
It is not a silly topic.
So you search for her. How exactly do you do that ?
Do you actually accept, unlike what the mccanns and some supporters say, that she was searched for extensively, by both police forces and volunteers ?
Therefore ending the myth, once and for all, that she wasn't searched for thoroughly.
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Bit of a silly topic isn't it.
The only way anyone can search is to look out for a Madeleine look a like whilst on holiday abroad which is what I do.
Are you sure about what you are looking for?
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Are you sure about what you are looking for?
I would advise any men to be careful about staring at girls of the appropriate age, it could be misconstrued.
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I would advise any men to be careful about staring at girls of the appropriate age, it could be misconstrued.
Or even approaching them, so that must rule out about 50% of those who could search.
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It is not a silly topic.
So you search for her. How exactly do you do that ?
Do you actually accept, unlike what the mccanns and some supporters say, that she was searched for extensively, by both police forces and volunteers ?
Therefore ending the myth, once and for all, that she wasn't searched for thoroughly.
As I said the only way anyone can search for Madeleine is to look out for look a likes with a fleck in the eye, which I do whilst away on holiday.
Can you give me a link where it says the McCann's have stated that Madeleine was not searched for extensively when she went missing?
I have never said she wasn't searched for extensively when she went missing, what I have said though is as soon as Amaral came up with his theory that Madeleine died in the apartment, sightings were not looked into, people were told she was dead.
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I would advise any men to be careful about staring at girls of the appropriate age, it could be misconstrued.
The McCann's give out a very good advice for when anyone was looking out for Madeleine, not to approach the child, but to contact police straight away.
If no one looked for a child whose picture is on a poster and is missing, then there wouldn't be any found would there? What is the point of putting up missing children posters if they didn't think it would help with the child being found.
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At what distance might one be able to observe a small fleck in an eye?
Its quite difficult to see an eye fleck in many of the photos of Madeleine. How much more difficult must it be to see one in a child that is moving about and perhaps not in ideal lighting conditions.
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On this forum we hear a lot of bluster from certain parties about the PJ not 'properly' searching for Madeleine, which is not true.
Now, how many on here have actually searched for Madeleine, that does not include typing on a keyboard.
For the record, I haven't , just like the vast majority of people around the world. I don't recall any foreign newspapers recounting tales of people searching around the world.
The mccanns of course, had a brief 'search' the following morning following the disappearance, and that was that.
I must admit I never actually searched for Madeleine but then most people haven't. If I recall at the time of her disappearance and in the early years afterwards, British and Irish tourists abroad were asked to keep an eye out for any child which might resemble her. Thus why we have initial sightings all over the place including the Moroccan, Irish and Romano debacles.
There were and probably are people who have gone out and searched towns and villages, there are others who have used ground penetrating radar too but alas as we all now know, it was all in vain.
My own view is that there is only one hope for finding Madeleine and that is to appeal for information from those who might have been involved. Searching these days is hopeless until and only if specific information is forthcoming. I am also firmly of the view that Madeleine can be found in the Luz area.
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As I said the only way anyone can search for Madeleine is to look out for look a likes with a fleck in the eye, which I do whilst away on holiday.
Can you give me a link where it says the McCann's have stated that Madeleine was not searched for extensively when she went missing?
I have never said she wasn't searched for extensively when she went missing, what I have said though is as soon as Amaral came up with his theory that Madeleine died in the apartment, sightings were not looked into, people were told she was dead.
Madeleine by Kate McCann;
if there were any specific police searches overnight, they were not apparent. The only searches I was aware of were those carried out by ourselves, fellow guests and the Mark Warner staff.
Lagos Post Commander ordered searches for the child to take place and contacted officers who were at home, forming a force of nine officers who searched during the night and early morning.
2. At 02.00 they arrived at P da L and began searching with the Portimao sniffer dog teams, the terrain searches were extended until the morning with the dogs and officers on the scene, as well as the night guard and local people who volunteered to help in the searches that took place throughout the night.
3. During this nocturnal period, the searches took place along the entire perimeter of the OC, in the urban area, plots of land and the nearest buildings, the officers searching all the place where there was a possibility the child might be, this area being extended later to include all of the beach zone.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GNR_SNIFFER.htm
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The McCann's give out a very good advice for when anyone was looking out for Madeleine, not to approach the child, but to contact police straight away.
If no one looked for a child whose picture is on a poster and is missing, then there wouldn't be any found would there? What is the point of putting up missing children posters if they didn't think it would help with the child being found.
good advice .......contact the police straight away .....so whoever they thought was maddie ...could be by then well gone
all these...so called sightings....AFAIR...not one took a picture [ mobile] ....or mentioned it to anyone around...often taking considerable time ..to even report it....and how did the media ..get hold of these story's ....like if it had of been true ...what danger did that put maddie in....nothing ...again ...to back anything up ...than the so called sighting.but was pushed forward ...by T M..regardless of the out come ...
maddie paid for all the mccs inexcusable choices ...even if u believe the abduction theory....the fund is the only thing they have been consistent with ....and pouring money into it.....oh ...and there reputation
as for the posters put up ....how maddie was supposed to be recognised ...at that ...[the most important time ]...speaks for itself ..it did not look like maddie as she was...you would have thought the Macs themselves ...would want the recentest photo possible ....but there you are ...the mccs were very slow on doing sensible things....apart from what suited there agenda....
I have never said she wasn't searched for extensively when she went missing, what I have said though is as soon as Amaral came up with his theory that Madeleine died in the apartment, sightings were not looked into, people were told she was dead.
now come on ......you dont know ...it wasn't looked into .or people stopped looking ...because maddie was dead.....i think if that the case ...they would have made that decision all by them selves....on what they knew
the mccs could have done one simple thing ....and took a lie detector ......to prove they had no involvement .....that to me ...would have proved beyond doubt of there innocence ....if they had passes it ...something you would have thought they would have done ...especially after........ TTOTL
as for keeping an eye out when abroad ....what or who would you exactly be looking for ....maddie ...aged three ....as that is only the photo that is mostly shown...
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Even the age progression thing is years out of date.
Surprised it hasn't been updated as they certainly have sufficient funds to commission one.
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I must admit I never actually searched for Madeleine but then most people haven't. If I recall at the time of her disappearance and in the early years afterwards, British and Irish tourists abroad were asked to keep an eye out for any child which might resemble her. Thus why we have initial sightings all over the place including the Moroccan, Irish and Romano debacles.
There were and probably are people who have gone out and searched towns and villages, there are others who have used ground penetrating radar too but alas as we all now know, it was all in vain.
My own view is that there is only one hope for finding Madeleine and that is to appeal for information from those who might have been involved. Searching these days is hopeless until and only if specific information is forthcoming. I am also firmly of the view that Madeleine can be found in the Luz area.
that would be very logic.....if abduction had took place ...to appeal for anyone involved ......or might have been involved ....but wasn't it said ...the mccs would prosecute anyone involved in the abduction ...etc etc
so that rules out anyone who knows anything ....coming forward ....where as you would have thought ....anyone apart from abductor would have had immunity ...if it helped to find...or what happened to her.
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that would be very logic.....if abduction had took place ...to appeal for anyone involved ......or might have been involved ....but wasn't it said ...the mccs would prosecute anyone involved in the abduction ...etc etc
so that rules out anyone who knows anything ....coming forward ....where as you would have thought ....anyone apart from abductor would have had immunity ...if it helped to find...or what happened to her.
Can't see how the McCanns would have the power or authority to prosecute anyone involved.
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I must admit I never actually searched for Madeleine but then most people haven't. If I recall at the time of her disappearance and in the early years afterwards, British and Irish tourists abroad were asked to keep an eye out for any child which might resemble her. Thus why we have initial sightings all over the place including the Moroccan, Irish and Romano debacles.
There were and probably are people who have gone out and searched towns and villages, there are others who have used ground penetrating radar too but alas as we all now know, it was all in vain.
My own view is that there is only one hope for finding Madeleine and that is to appeal for information from those who might have been involved. Searching these days is hopeless until and only if specific information is forthcoming. I am also firmly of the view that Madeleine can be found in the Luz area.
Madeleine may be found due to a tip off from say a neighbour, teacher, pupil of same school, having seen a poster of Madeleine.
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Even the age progression thing is years out of date.
Surprised it hasn't been updated as they certainly have sufficient funds to commission one.
SY have said it is going to be updated when Madeleine is 13 next May.
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Can't see how the McCanns would have the power or authority to prosecute anyone involved.
Correct Jassi. The perpetrator if found will face the full process of the law, no victim has a choice in whether or not prosecution for wrong doing takes place.
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SY have said it is going to be updated when Madeleine is 13 next May.
When was that said? I must have missed it.
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Madeleine by Kate McCann;
if there were any specific police searches overnight, they were not apparent. The only searches I was aware of were those carried out by ourselves, fellow guests and the Mark Warner staff.
Lagos Post Commander ordered searches for the child to take place and contacted officers who were at home, forming a force of nine officers who searched during the night and early morning.
2. At 02.00 they arrived at P da L and began searching with the Portimao sniffer dog teams, the terrain searches were extended until the morning with the dogs and officers on the scene, as well as the night guard and local people who volunteered to help in the searches that took place throughout the night.
3. During this nocturnal period, the searches took place along the entire perimeter of the OC, in the urban area, plots of land and the nearest buildings, the officers searching all the place where there was a possibility the child might be, this area being extended later to include all of the beach zone.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GNR_SNIFFER.htm
Yes, the McCann's felt alone during the night after Madeleine went missing, they should have left a police officer with them.
Where does it say that the McCann's didn't think the PJ had done an extensive search for Madeleine?
There are plenty of articles quoting the McCann's thanking these people.
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The McCann's give out a very good advice for when anyone was looking out for Madeleine, not to approach the child, but to contact police straight away.
If no one looked for a child whose picture is on a poster and is missing, then there wouldn't be any found would there? What is the point of putting up missing children posters if they didn't think it would help with the child being found.
I wouldn't be able to identify Madeleine at this stage of the proceedings, and would be very surprised if anyone else could, even her family members. If she's alive she's either well hidden or completely integrated in another family with nothing to arouse anyone's suspicions.
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When was that said? I must have missed it.
I think I read it on the Official Find Madeleine facebook page.
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I wouldn't be able to identify Madeleine at this stage of the proceedings, and would be very surprised if anyone else could, even her family members. If she's alive she's either well hidden or completely integrated in another family with nothing to arouse anyone's suspicions.
How do you know you wouldn't be able to identify Madeleine? she may look exactly as she does on the poster.
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that would be very logic.....if abduction had took place ...to appeal for anyone involved ......or might have been involved ....but wasn't it said ...the mccs would prosecute anyone involved in the abduction ...etc etc
so that rules out anyone who knows anything ....coming forward ....where as you would have thought ....anyone apart from abductor would have had immunity ...if it helped to find...or what happened to her.
My thoughts precisely. Unfortunately the cart has been placed before the horse in this case.
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Madeleine may be found due to a tip off from say a neighbour, teacher, pupil of same school, having seen a poster of Madeleine.
Absolutely.
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SY have said it is going to be updated when Madeleine is 13 next May.
The difficulty with SY is that being cops they want a collar thus why the stingy reward on offer is for information which would lead to a prosecution. Nothing at all from anyone for Madeleine's safe return! Frankly, I find that situation to be quite appalling!
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I wouldn't be able to identify Madeleine at this stage of the proceedings, and would be very surprised if anyone else could, even her family members. If she's alive she's either well hidden or completely integrated in another family with nothing to arouse anyone's suspicions.
I have to agree because if she is alive and has been integrated into some community somewhere you can be damn sure her appearance will have been altered significantly. In all honesty however I find this a forlorn hope.
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Yes, the McCann's felt alone during the night after Madeleine went missing, they should have left a police officer with them.
Where does it say that the McCann's didn't think the PJ had done an extensive search for Madeleine?
There are plenty of articles quoting the McCann's thanking these people.
not as alone as maddie would have felt .....[if abducted ]
and as for leaving police officers with them ......this would never have happened ....if the mccs had left someone with children ...
you see how i see it is you mcc supporters think only of the mccs...mccs.....mccs
they was treat ....as they deserved to be treat.....
they should be responsible for there actions ....not treat as victims ...
maddie is the victim..the one who payed the price ....for there actions...
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not as alone as maddie would have felt .....[if abducted ]
and as for leaving police officers with them ......this would never have happened ....if the mccs had left someone with children ...
you see how i see it is you mcc supporters think only of the mccs...mccs.....mccs
they was treat ....as they deserved to be treat.....
they should be responsible for there actions ....not treat as victims ...
maddie is the victim..the one who payed the price ....for there actions...
I doubt if the McCann's would have been alone as much as Madeleine was, they were fearful for her and out of their minds with worry as any parents would be, so don't know why you chose to post that.
What do you mean they were treated as they deserved to be treated? They were responsible for their actions, why do you think Kate was crying 'we've let her down' they don't need anyone to tell them they should be responsible for their actions. They also know that Madeleine is the victim, so why you chose to say that I don't know.
I was replying to the title of this thread, I have never seen a quote by the McCann's saying there wasn't an extensive search for Madeleine by the Portuguese Police. You are going off topic.
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Please note, the "Could Madeleine still be alive and well after 8 years?" posts have been moved.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7047.msg317736#msg317736
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Strange, I have never seen reproach of third parties for not looking for Ben Needham.
I am delighted to say ....
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Strange, I have never seen reproach of third parties for not looking for Ben Needham.
I am delighted to say ....
The circumstances of the 2 cases are not comparable.
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The circumstances of the 2 cases are not comparable.
Two missing children.
Opportunities (world-wide) for folk to keep an eye open.
Many do.
Hence myriad reported sightings (for either missing child).
Sadly none (yet) to bear fruit ....
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Two missing children.
Opportunities (world-wide) for folk to keep an eye open.
Many do.
Hence myriad reported sightings (for either missing child).
Sadly none (yet) to bear fruit ....
Describe the circumstances of the 2 disappearances.
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I would advise any men to be careful about staring at girls of the appropriate age, it could be misconstrued.
Indeed, ones face name and address appear in the Sun very soon after
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Strange, I have never seen reproach of third parties for not looking for Ben Needham.
I am delighted to say ....
That's because they did.
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I doubt if the McCann's would have been alone as much as Madeleine was, they were fearful for her and out of their minds with worry as any parents would be, so don't know why you chose to post that.
What do you mean they were treated as they deserved to be treated? They were responsible for their actions, why do you think Kate was crying 'we've let her down' they don't need anyone to tell them they should be responsible for their actions. They also know that Madeleine is the victim, so why you chose to say that I don't know.
I was replying to the title of this thread, I have never seen a quote by the McCann's saying there wasn't an extensive search for Madeleine by the Portuguese Police. You are going off topic.
well... you ....for a start ...dont dictate to me what i choose or not choose to post ....twice you mention it ....
you say why i chose to say it you don't know ....no....and you don't know what happened to maddie either do you .....what i post is my opinion of the mccs ....and if you don't like it ....tough
i could say you take this sympathy for the mccs too far...they are adults yet they choose....whine whine whine...look at us look at our grief we will carry this for the rest of our life ....[not till maddie is found]
i have no sympathy for the mccs .....same as i don't a drunk driver who chooses to drive the car ...kill someone ....and then spouts i have to live with this for the rest of my life ...that is my punishment ...blah blah Bela...
well he chose to driver that car ....the Macs chose to leave maddie/twins ....the babies had no choice ...and maddie is gone because of it
sorry Stephen for going off topic ............but it does seem no one has physically searched ...
.i stay a lot in Spain ...and see children who resemble maddie ...over and over again...but in reality ...i know it is not her because maddie is now ...nine years older.....
and the image of a three/four year old is still in my head ....probably that's how its suppose to be...that's why we always see the little girl pic.....seems no one is looking for her .....because she is never going to be found...especially under the circumstances that maddie disappeared in
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well... you ....for a start ...dont dictate to me what i choose or not choose to post ....twice you mention it ....
you say why i chose to say it you don't know ....no....and you don't know what happened to maddie either do you .....what i post is my opinion of the mccs ....and if you don't like it ....tough
i could say you take this sympathy for the mccs too far...they are adults yet they choose....whine whine whine...look at us look at our grief we will carry this for the rest of our life ....[not till maddie is found]
i have no sympathy for the mccs .....same as i don't a drunk driver who chooses to drive the car ...kill someone ....and then spouts i have to live with this for the rest of my life ...that is my punishment ...blah blah Bela...
well he chose to driver that car ....the Macs chose to leave maddie/twins ....the babies had no choice ...and maddie is gone because of it
sorry Stephen for going off topic ............but it does seem no one has physically searched ...
.i stay a lot in Spain ...and see children who resemble maddie ...over and over again...but in reality ...i know it is not her because maddie is now ...nine years older.....
and the image of a three/four year old is still in my head ....probably that's how its suppose to be...that's why we always see the little girl pic.....seems no one is looking for her .....because she is never going to be found...especially under the circumstances that maddie disappeared in
I mentioned that I didn't know why you posted what you did as it had nothing at all to do with the subject I was discussing.
You have no sympathy for the McCann's, that is up to you, you have made it quite clear from other posts that you have no sympathy for them. I on the other hand do, I feel very sad for Madeleine and what the poor little girl has gone through and could still be going through, but I know that what I am feeling must be a tiny percentage of what the McCann's must be feeling as it was their daughter who went missing, their daughter who they have no idea about what is happening to her and are unable to help her, it must be hell on earth to live with that every day. So, yes I do have sympathy with them as a mother to another mother and father.
There is a photo fit of Madeleine that is used to identify her, just the same as there is an updated one of Ben Needham.