Sun's Nick Pisa refers to Gonçalo Amaral as a "Poisonous Liar".

[sadie]

But was Amaral a Poisonous Liar?  Personally, I think that description is a bit over the top, but he was definitely a bit of a Fibber.

I don't know why, but I doubt that it was anything to do with his Honour, unless he feels that The PJ treated him badly, despite not sacking him when he was convicted of Perjury.

So is Amaral's main gripe against The PJ and not The McCanns at all?

I am sorry Eleanor, but he has shown himself to be a liar.  He is a convicted perjurer FGS.

And look at the so called evidence in the Joana case.  There is none IMO, yet it comes from him that

1)  Leonor and Joao were having top level hanky panky when Joana saw them so they killed her
2)  Leonor threw herself down the stairs when IMO it was untrue
3)  Joanas blood was in the fridge, when it was never tested and could even have been pigs blood
4)  Joanas body was chopped up into small pieces,and fed to the pigs.  No evidence of that

[G-Unit]

But was Amaral a Poisonous Liar?  Personally, I think that description is a bit over the top, but he was definitely a bit of a Fibber.

I don't know why, but I doubt that it was anything to do with his Honour, unless he feels that The PJ treated him badly, despite not sacking him when he was convicted of Perjury.

So is Amaral's main gripe against The PJ and not The McCanns at all?

Amaral was convicted in 2009, wasn't he? He had already retired from the PJ by then.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/5370361/Madeleine-McCann-police-chief-found-guilty-of-falsifying-evidence.html

He was certainly displeased with the PJ who wouldn't allow him to defend himself publicly in 2007. In my opinion that's why he decided to retire and put his story into book form.

[jassi]

You asked me for a cite that I have given a million times before which confirmed the veracity of my post, hence my exasperation .  You will be unable to provide a cite to prove the veracity of yours, so you are not entitled to FGS me. 

Really? I know you post a lot, but not as much as that.

[barrier]

I am sorry Eleanor, but he has shown himself to be a liar.  He is a convicted perjurer FGS.

And look at the so called evidence in the Joana case.  There is none IMO, yet it comes from him that

1)  Leonor and Joao were having top level hanky panky when Joana saw them so they killed her
2)  Leonor threw herself down the stairs when IMO it was untrue
3)  Joanas blood was in the fridge, when it was never tested and could even have been pigs blood
4)  Joanas body was chopped up into small pieces,and fed to the pigs.  No evidence of that

It doesn't come from him.
"They later claimed they were tortured into confessing but police said that Mrs Cipriano tried to commit suicide by throwing herself off a staircase.
Three inspectors – Leonel Marques, Pereira Cristovao and Paulo Marques Bom – were cleared of torture after a seven-month trial at Faro Court in the Algarve."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/5370361/Madeleine-McCann-police-chief-found-guilty-of-falsifying-evidence.html

So on what basis does the author refer to Amaral as a "poisinous liar".

[barrier]

You asked me for a cite that I have given a million times before which confirmed the veracity of my post, hence my exasperation .  You will be unable to provide a cite to prove the veracity of yours, so you are not entitled to FGS me. 

What does a forensic archaeologist look for?
What would cadaver dogs be used for.
Why would officers be lifting up manhole covers then using micro-cameras attached to fibre optic cables.

[Vertigo Swirl]

What does a forensic archaeologist look for?
What would cadaver dogs be used for.
Why would officers be lifting up manhole covers then using micro-cameras attached to fibre optic cables.

I agree it would seem on the face of it that they were looking for a body, just as, on the face of it, it would seem that The Met are looking for a stranger in connection with Madeleine’s abduction.  If you can accept one, why not the other?

[Eleanor]

One can have one,but as to one is entitled is a different matter.

I am, and so apparently was Amaral.  I don't know if you think you aren't.

[Eleanor]

Amaral was convicted in 2009, wasn't he? He had already retired from the PJ by then.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/5370361/Madeleine-McCann-police-chief-found-guilty-of-falsifying-evidence.html

He was certainly displeased with the PJ who wouldn't allow him to defend himself publicly in 2007. In my opinion that's why he decided to retire and put his story into book form.

That's what I think.

[Eleanor]

It doesn't come from him.
"They later claimed they were tortured into confessing but police said that Mrs Cipriano tried to commit suicide by throwing herself off a staircase.
Three inspectors – Leonel Marques, Pereira Cristovao and Paulo Marques Bom – were cleared of torture after a seven-month trial at Faro Court in the Algarve."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/5370361/Madeleine-McCann-police-chief-found-guilty-of-falsifying-evidence.html

So on what basis does the author refer to Amaral as a "poisinous liar".

Perjury isn't very nice.  Especially coming from a serving Police Officer.  And it is against The Law.

[Robittybob1]

In both photos - same woman (or fat guy with manboobs), same girl... but deffo not Madeleine.

That is what I think too.   

[barrier]

I am, and so apparently was Amaral.  I don't know if you think you aren't.

I don't have ideas above my station,today is the 100th anniversary of the signing of the armistice, the sacrifice's the poor sods gave certainly never gave me an entitlement, they preserved me the right which is a world of difference.God bless them all.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I don't have ideas above my station,today is the 100th anniversary of the signing of the armistice, the sacrifice's the poor sods gave certainly never gave me an entitlement, they preserved me the right which is a world of difference.God bless them all.

Strange.  Today we remember those who fought for our freedoms, including the right to hold an opinion, whatever it may be.  We are all entitled to one, even you, so why argue otherwise?

[Eleanor]

I don't have ideas above my station,today is the 100th anniversary of the signing of the armistice, the sacrifice's the poor sods gave certainly never gave me an entitlement, they preserved me the right which is a world of difference.God bless them all.

Perhaps you didn't lose your childhood or your mother, and effectively your father as well.  I am entitled to what they gave up for me.

Strangely enough, I am not a great believer in Free Speech.  My generation didn't need it, and are all too well aware of how much damage it can do thoughtlessly.

[barrier]

"believing oneself to be inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment".


Maybe it really is a class thing.

[Eleanor]

"believing oneself to be inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment".


Maybe it really is a class thing.

Hardly.  Most of the people who lost their lives were very working class.