Netflix launches new 8-part documentary about the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

[faithlilly]

....as was the Tapas 9 timeline. So why does one need to be reconstituted to verify who was where & when but the Smith family timeline & its obvious discrepancies with electronic data doesn't? Surely both were essential to the PJ in the absence of the CCTV which would have shown Smiths returning to Estrela da Luz & possibly the passing abductor. This is pivotal to Amaral's accusations in both his book & the Netflix documentary.

The Smiths returned for a reconstitution.

[misty]

The Smiths returned for a reconstitution.

The PJ didn't have the restaurant & bar receipts at the time of their reconstruction. They weren't asked for or collected until October 2007.

[Eleanor]

Bean bags? - luxury. We  'ad a swing made out of a bit of knotted rope and an old plank.

You had an old plank?  You were lucky.

[Mr Gray]

Netflix certainly came up with one very important fact... The PJ did not understand the forensic evidence... And they didn't understand it because they didn't translate, and read the whole of the report... Sheer incompetence.. Neither did they understand the dog alerts.. Amarals teams role in the prosecution of cipriano was, also brought to thevpublics, attention..
We've had the Portuguese accusing the mccanns of involvement fir the last, eleven years... I think Netflix showed the PJ for what they were... Incompetent and according to Sandra F... Dishonest... We'll done Netflix

[barrier]

Well that's nearly eight hours I won't get back. So disappointed that what promised to be an investigative documentary is nothing more than an attempted review of everything that has gone before.  The entire documentary appears to have a predisposition towards abduction, I don't believe the words woke and wandered were mentioned once?  All reference to Marcos Aragão Correia has been conveniently obliterated as has his involvement with Método 3 and Brian Kennedy.  The Smith e-fits are mentioned but all reference to them being withheld is again omitted. The refusal by the tapas 7 to take part in a reconstruction is never mentioned but criticisms of the Portuguese police and Amaral is sprinkled freely throughout the documentary.  Nil ponts to Netflix for their so-called investigative abilities but good cinematography all the same.

Aw come on,we've learnt for the first time ever since the dawn of time a womans changed her mind about a man,who'd have thunk it.

[Mr Gray]

I think the biggest and most important question is.. What is, the evidence that the parents, are involved... This is what Netflix chose to investigate and answer.... And I think they did...

[Vertigo Swirl]

Netflix certainly came up with one very important fact... The PJ did not understand the forensic evidence... And they didn't understand it because they didn't translate, and read the whole of the report... Sheer incompetence.. Neither did they understand the dog alerts.. Amarals teams role in the prosecution of cipriano was, also brought to thevpublics, attention..
We've had the Portuguese accusing the mccanns of involvement fir the last, eleven years... I think Netflix showed the PJ for what they were... Incompetent and according to Sandra F... Dishonest... We'll done Netflix

[Vertigo Swirl]

The three statements taken from the Smiths place their departure from Kelly’s bar anywhere from 21.50 to 22.00. By Gerry’s timeline Kate raised the alarm around 10.13. Even at the later time it wouldn’t take an individual 13 minutes to be seen by the Smiths, dump a body and be back at the tapas bar by 10.13.

Still clinging to the ludicrous notion that Gerry (a completely untrustworthy and mendacious character by your own assessment) should tell the truth once and once only thus blowing his perfectly constructed alibi out of the water.  It’s high time you face reality and own up to the fact that this is complete nonsense.  IMO.

[Brietta]

I think the biggest and most important question is.. What is, the evidence that the parents, are involved... This is what Netflix chose to investigate and answer.... And I think they did...

You only had to listen to what journalist Sandra Felgueiras had to say on the matter bearing in mind the way she went for the jugular in many interviews and articles.

She believed what her police sources were telling her at the time.

The knowledge that the police consistently lied to her and fed her lies about Kate and Gerry throughout the investigation.
She believed what she was told about the 'strange behaviour'.
She believed what she was told about 'CALPOL'.
She believed what she was told about the dog 'evidence'.

She could not emphasise enough in the Netflix film her embarrassment about the lies she had spread about Kate and Gerry as a direct result of lies the police had fed her.

She demanded answers from Amaral, long suspected of being her informant and therefore the source of the lies, when the truth became apparent.

[Vertigo Swirl]

You only had to listen to what journalist Sandra Felgueiras had to say on the matter bearing in mind the way she went for the jugular in many interviews and articles.

She believed what her police sources were telling her at the time.

The knowledge that the police consistently lied to her and fed her lies about Kate and Gerry throughout the investigation.
She believed what she was told about the 'strange behaviour'.
She believed what she was told about 'CALPOL'.
She believed what she was told about the dog 'evidence'.

She could not emphasise enough in the Netflix film her embarrassment about the lies she had spread about Kate and Gerry as a direct result of lies the police had fed her.

She demanded answers from Amaral, long suspected of being her informant and therefore the source of the lies, when the truth became apparent.

She also came across as highly earnest and credible (and genuinely remorseful) whereas IMO Amaral came across as shifty and dishonest, and frankly quite repellent.

[Brietta]

Still clinging to the ludicrous notion that Gerry (a completely untrustworthy and mendacious character by your own assessment) should tell the truth once and once only thus blowing his perfectly constructed alibi out of the water.  It’s high time you face reality and own up to the fact that this is complete nonsense.  IMO.

Sandra Felgueiras managed to realise the truth immediately she read the FSS report when the files were released.

The great pity of it is that she was fed the lies in the first instance as the police built their case against Kate and Gerry while neglecting the day job of working on Madeleine's case as a result.

What she said in the Netflix film is unequivocal.  The police lied ... and she inadvertently broadcast those lies to a worldwide audience.
I think that is pretty shattering stuff.

[G-Unit]

Jayne Jensen knew Gerry McCann and Jez Wilkins because she was in the same tennis coaching group as they were.
She also gives new information. She says she saw and spoke to Jez after the alarm was raised. Jez and his wife both said he didn't go out at all after about 9.30pm. They also say he only learned of Madeleine's disappearance at 1am on 4th.

[barrier]

Jayne Jensen knew Gerry McCann and Jez Wilkins because she was in the same tennis coaching group as they were.
She also gives new information. She says she saw and spoke to Jez after the alarm was raised. Jez and his wife both said he didn't go out at all after about 9.30pm. They also say he only learned of Madeleine's disappearance at 1am on 4th.

Can't be all right can they?

[Mr Gray]

Jayne Jensen knew Gerry McCann and Jez Wilkins because she was in the same tennis coaching group as they were.
She also gives new information. She says she saw and spoke to Jez after the alarm was raised. Jez and his wife both said he didn't go out at all after about 9.30pm. They also say he only learned of Madeleine's disappearance at 1am on 4th.

So you highlight discrepancies in these statements... Are these people lying or is it just the statements, are not accurate

[Eleanor]

You only had to listen to what journalist Sandra Felgueiras had to say on the matter bearing in mind the way she went for the jugular in many interviews and articles.

She believed what her police sources were telling her at the time.

The knowledge that the police consistently lied to her and fed her lies about Kate and Gerry throughout the investigation.
She believed what she was told about the 'strange behaviour'.
She believed what she was told about 'CALPOL'.
She believed what she was told about the dog 'evidence'.

She could not emphasise enough in the Netflix film her embarrassment about the lies she had spread about Kate and Gerry as a direct result of lies the police had fed her.

She demanded answers from Amaral, long suspected of being her informant and therefore the source of the lies, when the truth became apparent.

I agree with everything you say.  But, just how naive was she?  This wasn't the first time that The PJ had done this.  How many innocent people finished up convicted by the likes of her believing that they were privileged to receive "True" information by dint of corrupt PJ Officers breaking the sacrosanct Secrecy Laws?

She was used, but she is far from blameless.