Netflix launches new 8-part documentary about the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

[Mr Gray]

I completely agree, that means he simply cannot be believed, I have no trouble whatsoever with that opinion but it gives me reassurance reading your post that I am in entirely correct to hold the exact same opinion towards Kate and Gerry McCann.   

What she said in her book is unequivocal.  They lied ... and they knowingly broadcast those lies to a worldwide audience.  I believe Kate's book and Gerry's blog confirm that is an established fact.

In what way did the mccanns lie

[Eleanor]

I completely agree, that means he simply cannot be believed, I have no trouble whatsoever with that opinion but it gives me reassurance reading your post that I am in entirely correct to hold the exact same opinion towards Kate and Gerry McCann.   

What she said in her book is unequivocal.  They lied ... and they knowingly broadcast those lies to a worldwide audience.  I believe Kate's book and Gerry's blog confirm that is an established fact.

There are Lies and there are lies.  Kate did not attempt to pervert the course of justice.  Amaral did.  But then he had done that before.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Jayne Jensen knew Gerry McCann and Jez Wilkins because she was in the same tennis coaching group as they were.
She also gives new information. She says she saw and spoke to Jez after the alarm was raised. Jez and his wife both said he didn't go out at all after about 9.30pm. They also say he only learned of Madeleine's disappearance at 1am on 4th.

1am or 1 pm?

[Eleanor]

I have no problem accepting what Amaral was convicted of.  I acknowledge I am not prepared to accept his word as the truth. You can view the lies the parents told to a lesser degree if you wish, but those lies prove beyond any reasonable doubt to me, the very fact they were quite prepared to tell lies in the first place. There should have been no reason to tell lies at all imo. They chose to ignore the honest and dignified option of saying nothing at all, to knowingly tell lies. I take no pleasure from that fact, but it's now an established fact nevertheless. That fact imo, means we may never know what Kate was trying to do. I find that sad.

All I do know is, like Amaral,  they lied, so how can I believe a word they say? The fact is, I can't and imo one one can.

I find it astonishing that people who claim to be interested in discovering the truth about what happened to the child, can agree with you. There are lies and there are lies? In this case, not imo. That's yours.

Amaral got a prison sentence for some of his lies.  Kate hasn't even been arrested, and never will be.

[G-Unit]

Jon Clarke says he arrived just as the McCanns were leaving for Potimao. He says he went uo onto the balcony of 5A but didn't go in because 'obviously it would have been a crime scene'. Did he reread what he jad said previously? Obviously not.

 When I arrived at about 11.45am I was firstly able to walk into the apartment, where I introduced myself to the McCanns and told them I would do everything I could to help.
https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2017/05/11/madeleine-mccann-olive-press-editor-talks-first-journalist-scene-10th-anniversary-disappearance/

He also says that there was an announcement to the press that the McCanns were going to make their first appeal late on 4th. I wonder who announced that? Kate McCann gives the impression that it was a spur of the moment decision by Gerry.

[G-Unit]

1am or 1 pm?

 I had dinner, watched a DVD and went to bed at about 11 pm.

The doorbell woke us up at about 1 am. It was the resort manager who I learnt to be John and one of Jerry's friends. I think his name was Matt. He is white, slim, and tall with greying hair. From previous conversations I learnt him to be a diabetics specialist. We met him o the way to the destination. Matt said XXXXX to the effect that Jerry's daughter had been abducted
 http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JEREMY-WILKINS.htm

[Vertigo Swirl]

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[Vertigo Swirl]

I had dinner, watched a DVD and went to bed at about 11 pm.

The doorbell woke us up at about 1 am. It was the resort manager who I learnt to be John and one of Jerry's friends. I think his name was Matt. He is white, slim, and tall with greying hair. From previous conversations I learnt him to be a diabetics specialist. We met him o the way to the destination. Matt said XXXXX to the effect that Jerry's daughter had been abducted
 http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JEREMY-WILKINS.htm

And what time did Jayne Jensen say she saw Jez?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Amaral got a prison sentence for some of his lies.  Kate hasn't even been arrested, and never will be.

He told a couple of whoppers in he Netflix documentary.  He just can’t help it IMO.

[G-Unit]

So you highlight discrepancies in these statements... Are these people lying or is it just the statements, are not accurate

Bridget O'Donnell confirmed, in English, what her husband said in his police statement;

At 1am there was a frantic banging on our door. Jes got up to answer. I stayed listening in the dark. I knew it was bad; it could only be bad. I heard male mumbling, then Jes's voice. "You're joking?" he said. It wasn't the words, it  was the tone that made me flinch. He came back in to the room. "Gerry's daughter's been abducted," he said.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/dec/14/ukcrime.madeleinemccann

[Eleanor]

He told a couple of whoppers in he Netflix documentary.  He just can’t help it IMO.

Last ditch desperation.  Amaral is a busted flush.  Whatever happened to his Ace?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Jayne Jensen knew Gerry McCann and Jez Wilkins because she was in the same tennis coaching group as they were.
She also gives new information. She says she saw and spoke to Jez after the alarm was raised. Jez and his wife both said he didn't go out at all after about 9.30pm. They also say he only learned of Madeleine's disappearance at 1am on 4th.

It’s not new information, she revealed it in an interview in 2007
As they and the other holidaymakers combed the area, Mrs Jensen met another member of her tennis coaching group, TV producer Jez Wilkins.

"Jez told me it was Gerry's daughter we were looking for. I hadn't realised before that moment

"Jez said that he knew Gerry had checked the children because he had met him coming back from the apartment."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-504950/British-witnesses-We-saw-blond-men-balcony-Madeleine-apartment.html

[G-Unit]

And what time did Jayne Jensen say she saw Jez?

The time is irrelevant as he and his wife say he didn't go out at any time that night after returning with his son.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Also, why is thr Smiths sighting given so much attention, but not Jayne Jensens alleged sighting of Robert Murat on the evening of the 3rd? 

[Vertigo Swirl]

The time is irrelevant as he and his wife say he didn't go out at any time that night after returning with his son.

The time IS relevant because any time she met him next would be after the alarm was raised.  Mountains out of molehills time again methinks, to distract from the obvious.